• NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Hey, idiot asses, it’s a meme. That’s just a dumb lighter for idiots you can get on temu. Are you really stupid enough to believe they are handing out flamethrowers because of a post on a meme instance?

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    2 days ago

    Well with women having these on hand at least the incels will finally achieve one of their objectives:

    Women thinking they’re smokin’ hot.

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        Typically without solid training what happens is the weapon gets turned on the wrong person.

        But, for the sake of a good time we can imagine some asshole pervs getting lit up like a cigar. Heh heh. Awesome.

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          I hope the QA is good. Training or no training, these aliexpress specials will probably just self immolate in your bag.

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            Idk, having something that could melt metal from a safe distance as a deterrent seems a bit overkill. But don’t take my word for it, I might be overreacting.

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            Great, create more fear in society and pit people against each other and give them weapons, too. Winning concept.

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                The problem is that who an “abuser” is is extremely subjective. In this case it’s evil men. What if people buy these because they’re scared of evil immigrants? The argument is the exact same.

                And nothing is stopping abusers from getting these too. You think they have a little checkbox on the order you have to cross on the form so they don’t accidentally sell them to the wrong person?

                And who are they against exactly, gropers, rapists, people that hit on you in a club, any stranger that approaches you? Burning someone alive is a pretty big commitment, you better make sure you got the right person, or else you’re just another psychopath with a weapon waiting for a chance to use it on anyone you dislike.

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                What attacker? There is no attacker, it’s all a hypothetical situation meant to rile up people like you.

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                It’s just a weapon. It can be used by anybody, against anybody, for any reason. Being willing to use a weapon against other people doesn’t mean you are justified in doing so. This particular weapon is probably most useful for disfiguring people. There’s a fair chance that some over-entitled ex-boyfriends and stalkers might find a use for it.

                • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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                  Do you want to get embarrassed over getting defensive about a dark joke shitpost in a meme sub about women defending themselves against the onslaught of rape the world throws at them and how the systems in power refuse to give a shit about to the point of them requiring lethal disfiguring weapons (as a joke, as this is just a stupid temu lighter intended to be used simply as a lighter for people stupid enough to buy one, if that wasn’t fucking obvious.) to stop it from happening to them or do you maybe just want to fuck off about it? I’ve still got more in the tank, but I’d rather do other things than point out how fucking stupid it is to take shit like this seriously to the point of arguing against it as a safety issue. I just got off of a rare slow shift at work and need to play with my cat.

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                By that logic, shouldn’t everyone carry a gun too? If it’s theoretically only going to be used against an active attacker, what’s the big deal?

                (Note: this isn’t an argument for carrying guns)

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                  A lot of people carry guns specifically for that reason. I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, but it speaks of a bigger issue that is being ignored. If people are forced to look out for themselves then the options become very limited and outside of the possibility of anything approaching ideal. I’m not choosing to worry about the attackers getting set on fire in this situation, my concerns and those of the people who have a need for things like this have already been outright ignored entirely. People don’t have a better option, it was taken from them already.

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          Also, fire doesn’t just stay put. Yes, you might burn the attacker, but catch the building on fire killing people.

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        Handing out weapons to the population and expect them to use them responsibly has worked so fucking well so far…

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      There is one benefit to this. If you’re talking to a women at a bar and the people around you starting to move away, you know you’re crossing some lines.

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    I am a man. I am buying six of these, a pair of rollerskates, a hockey stick, a mini fire extinguisher, and some string.

    See you guys on TV later!

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    I kind of get it. It looks a little bit scary so you flash it and some intrusive guy should get the message and fuck of. Probably as effective as spring knife would be but more fancy looking. As an actual self defense weapon it would be useless. I would be easy to close the distance fast and knock it out. I guess this is part of the appeal. It looks scary but is not really that dangerous. Knife would be a better weapon but that’s exactly you don’t want to carry a knife around. It turns any fight in a life or death situation while a big lighter like this is just a prop. Anyway, just get some pepper spray.

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      To add on about using a knife for defense that you lightly touched.

      You never want to be in a knife fight. Nobody wins in a knife fight. Especially if it’s a pocket knife.

      I have a bright neon orange & green bush/field/combat knife that I take with me when I go camping. It’s largely a tool for managing my camp, but I have practiced defensive fighting with it, but I am no knife fighting expert. I see it as a last-ditch effort of defense against a wild animal or human where my life is already on the line. And wearing it on my hip around camp advertises “this person is armed” to any human that has ill intent that comes across my camp during daylight hours. I’d still rather grab my walking stick for a good head bonking and sternum busting, and I would do my best to do that before pulling the knife for defensive combat use.

      So, to be abundantly clear. There are no winners in a knife fight. The “winner” goes to the hospital.

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        You never want to be in a knife fight. Nobody wins in a knife fight. Especially if it’s a pocket knife.

        oh, absolutely. My swiss knife serves its purpose in the kitchen or in the house. I don’t carry these things around.

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      One of my lady friends practiced butterfly knife tricks for years just to intimidate creeps. I’m a little scared myself when I watch her play with them.

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      Point at face and pull the trigfer, shortly. Shouldn’t be enough to actually harm but burning hair, brows and eyelashes are great at resistributing attention ^^

      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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        Yes, as I said, might scare someone but will not incapacitate them. Depending on the situation scarring/angering the opponent might be a good or a terrible idea.

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          Yes, scaring can make people just more angry and lead to a more severe attack… but I am pretty sure that a scared angry attacker who’s clothing is on fire will reassess his priorities rather quickly.

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            It’s just a gas lighter. It’s unlikely it will set someone on fire. They would have to be wearing something extremely flammable. To actually set someone on fire you need some agent that will stick to them like gasoline. This will most probably just burn someone’s hair and it’s a good thing. Using actual flamethrower as a self defense weapon would be insane. The chances of hurting yourself or setting whole building on fire would be really big. You could just a well carry a bottle of acid with you.

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              To actually set someone on fire you need some agent that will stick to them like gasoline.

              Hmmm… you are right… but if you mount a propane lighter on, lets say, a water pistol filled with ethanol… hmmm…