That’s because you’re measuring physical violence, not psychological. We skate under the radar once again.
Quoting crime statistics based on gender:
Quoting crime statistics based on race:
Quoting crime statistics based on race, like the old “13/50” trope, is often used to enforce racist notions that minority groups are inherently bad people. It’s punching down at marginalized people.
This meme, at least as I see it, is the opposite. It’s satirizing the usual crap from the anti-feminist crowd claiming that women are inherently inferior. It’s punching up at sexist men.
Statistics put men globally as being 81% of the victims of violent crime. And the perpetrators of that crime being less than 1% of the male population. So to put it another way, youre making the same argument as racists when they claim that all black guys sell drugs because some black guy sold them a joint one time.
This is just yet another in a long line of “men bad” memes, in an online society that accepts and celebrates bigotry.
So…statistics are only valid when they promote your ideals?
Or is it that, in your mind, the stats that don’t run parallel with your ideals have obviously been misinterpreted or fudged?
Just trying to figure out your stance on statistical data.
Stats are valid when they are used in the proper context and are not being misrepresented. For example, Black and Native American people account for a disproportionate number of drowning deaths in the US. But it would be irresponsible to simply conclude that those groups are inherently bad swimmers. Just like the way the 13/50 trope is irresponsibly used to imply non-whites are inherently more prone to criminal behavior.
All that aside, this meme isn’t attacking men. It’s attacking sexist tropes used against women.
All that aside, this meme isn’t attacking men. It’s attacking sexist tropes used against women.
Nah, it’s a sexist joke. But it’s funny because “Haha, men bad”.
It’s equivalent to making a joke like this: “Men do care about their feelings. Feeling their dick being sucked”
I think this one might have gone over your head mate.
Which part? The fact that OP made a sexist joke, or the part where Lemmy(in general) is vitriolic in response to certain statistics?
Statistics are just numbers. What matters is how they are used. Anyone who has studied stats knows that it’s common to craft misleading conclusions from real data.
So what is the “right” way to use them?
So long as they are helping the “downtrodden”* it’s ok to see the numbers differently?
I have studied statistics. In my studies I learned that numbers do not lie, people lie. And, as was stated before, people can manipulate numbers to match their narrative.
I’ve seen studies published as “fact” just because the author manipulated the numbers to match their findings.
This is what we should base our outlook on?
*in this instance, “downtrodden” refers to the person or group deemed savable by those who are looking to be a savior.
I’ve seen critically reviewed papers that mouth breathers like you are taking up too much oxygen. You should look at yourself in the mirror. How much does it hurt?
For real
You only have one countrr argument, dammit and you’re going to use it!
It’s specious and fallacious but it’s all you’ve got!
Holding up a mirror to your own hypocrisy.
Not even close there captain fallacy
Oh? then let me make a counter-joke so you get the point.
“Want to be equal to whites. Can’t stop being the majority of murderers, by capita.”
With a black guy sitting there.
Do you think that is funny?
Always gotta go to the black guys, don’tcha
Do you think it’s funny?
Your attempts at false comparisons? Buddy it’s laugh or cry
Everybody knows only black males such as myself commit crimes… : exits scene left when the black face starts to sweat off:
>makes ragebait post for men
>laughs at men getting ragebaited
>pretends like ragebaiting people is progressive in any way
Is this ragebait? I’m a man and I thought it was funny. This is the kind of thing I would say to the feminists I know.
Its funny to everyone who can handle a joke.
Pathetic. Get in the game, women.
Hey, it’s 80% of reported violent crime. We’re just better at it and don’t get caught, obvs.
The real reason women love true crime podcasts: learning from the mistakes of others
And watching all the men fail
Sometimes minor league ball is a more interesting game.
I am officially calling true crime tv “the minor leagues”
There were several generations of women that killed abusive husbands in ways that looked like accidents.
Hey, it’s 80% of reported violent crime
Police are already abysmal at actually documenting reported crimes. That’s double so when it runs against the toxic reactionary attitudes common to these departments.
Don’t worry, we men are already evening out the odds by getting our panties twisted in a bunch over a clever meme.
I am just a 5’ honey badger waiting for my moment. Closest call was that time Jehovah witnesses peered into my car while I was alone at night outside of a store. Turns out they are easily frightened when you hold your car horn down long enough though.
Cheap ragebaits huh ?? There are better ways to garner attention buddy.
what’s unnerving is that there lots of POW reports that indicate that women showcase far more cruelty towards female POWs compared to men.
Studies have also shown women in power tend to block more women from being promoted to positions of power.
What are those studies ?
now that’s girl power!
And they’ve always gotta be the victim. 🙄
Aren’t men much more likely to fight each other than a woman?
Not me, I’ll fight any woman. Probably won’t win, but that doesn’t make me any less brave.
I prefer to beat up children, I like to see the fear in their eyes
I mean jokes are fine but this kinda borders on bad taste
If it helps at all, it’s not entirely true, statistically, just very slightly funny when not explained. Men are like 75% of the victims in homicides and lead in other violent crimes, if my Googling is correct. Women do lead in other categories, though, so it’s still competitive. I’m not trying to take anything away from anybody. But I also admit “borders on bad taste” is pretty much the line I walk.
You reminded me of a dead stupid subway sign I saw once, it was about the fact 1 in 4 homeless were women, which don’t get me wrong everyone deserves a home, but it was so tone deaf in delivery it felt like unintentional parody
So men are unfairly discriminating against women by excluding them from their murders?! It never ends with these jerks!
14%
I have to imagine that it was also a joke. I see it as a continuation of the original joke
Prudish much?
Why? It’s factual. According to men, it’s always a woman’s fault.
According to men
We polled 2.5 men and they all agreed
80% of violent crime? Cute. Lesbians are busy cornering the space crime market (allegedly).
That was a fake, just so you’re aware. Still hilarious as a meme.
oh… I guess it’s true what they say… never meet your heroes…
Be the lesbian space crime you want to see I guess?
Law and Order: Lesbian Space Crime Unit
Be gay. Do space crime
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But but but if they did 80% then MEN wouldn’t be taken seriously!!!
How so? They can both do 80%. This will increase the total number of crimes to 160% but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to pay to protect equality, the second amendment and the free world.
That’s not how maths works.
[Excuse me while I “mansplain”] But if women want to increase their violent crimes to match men’s, they need to increase by an additional 300%. This would result in a total increase of violent crimes of 60% more violent crime.
C’mon girls! Try harder!
Do your part to achieve equality!
Then maybe men can cease being expected to open doors, put toilet seats down, put women and children first, die in wars, buy dinner and flowers, carry all the heavy things, fend off attackers, fix everything, [(quietly)] die younger, thrive without emotional support, be sole provider as a trad-hubby gentleman sigma-male feminist-ally bad-boy softie stoic emoting funny but only in a specific way and tall but not too tall and looking good with a six-pack without spending time working on it and whatever else in the cluster of impossible contradictions, alone.
Nah, bitches love my gut
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FUCK YEAH!
So who’s committing the final 80% of crime then? Nonbinary people?
80% (women) + 80% (men) + 80% (non binary) + 80% (pets) = 160% (total)
math checks out.
What about children. Why won’t anyone ever think of the children!!!???!
Children aren’t allowed to do crime. It’s illegal for them
Fascist!!!
Don’t blame me, I don’t make the rules
that’s why we call them innocent.
Checkmate feminists.
Gonna be trotting out the ol’ 13/50 next?
But this one is accurate and that one is white suprematist nonsense.
Would the stat be alright if it was actually factual? Because not all of the stats racists use are false you know
If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike. Y’all are some stupid motherfuckers.
“You see, the problem with racism is the statistics are incorrect. If the science behind it is solid, bigotry is actually fine.”
That is not what your moral and intellectual superior said or implied.
“You see, as you better, my opinion is above reproach by the likes of you. I am a progressive.”
Nope, you’re just wrong.
“You see, I’m better than others, and my opinions are correct, whatever they are. I have never reflected on this.”
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