!cursedmemes

Ho ho ho. This seems like fun! Wondering if the mod(s) can pin this so we can update daily on our progress.

Also, you should’ve added one for Venezuela idolisation. “Maduro did nothing wrong!” and Kremlin simps—although that is essentially free

Well they kinda have a point, brachiosaurus made a claim and porcoesphino asked for some evidence to back up that claim, but they responded with a vague, ‘go look at Reddit and see for yourself’, which isn’t really statistically relevant when you make a claim such as, “most media state-owned”.

Edit: Grammar

Chopping it up with the guys that don’t fail to shoot them in their backs during the revolution? You can’t make this stuff up😂

From reddit

The fable is wild work

This isn’t entirely accurate. What you described is a ‘socialist’ community, the so-called ‘lower stage of communism’. In this stage, there would still remain incentive based structures for labour. It employs a policy of “from each according to his ability to each according to his works”. Inequality still exists as explained by Marx here:

This equal right is still constantly stigmatized by a bourgeois limitation… one worker is married, another is not; one has more children than another… Thus, with an equal performance of labor, and hence an equal share in the social consumption fund, one will in fact receive more than another. — Critique of the Gotha Programme

It is during this lower stage that the transformation of social relations and productive forces gradually alters the motivations for labor to a more virtue-based one.

The problem most communism skeptic people have with communism is that they reason within the current modes of subsistence and assume it is impossible.

“What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges.” — Critique of the Gotha Programme

Marx also stated that he expected us to remain in the lower stage of communism for centuries, but it is during this stage that we prepare the productive forces to sustain communism and start producing goods for their use-value rather than for their exchange value, so that we can achieve the higher stage of communism which employs 'from each according to their ability to each according to his needs. This higher stage is truly classless because we would supposedly have solved scarcity, it would be stateless because people would organize communally to meet their needs, and it would be moneyless because the means of production and means of subsistence would be free for all to access.

In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor… has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life’s prime want… only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be fully left behind and society inscribe on its banners: ‘From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!’ — Critique of the Gotha Programme

Riiiiight. Keep telling yourself that

The biggest joke here is you think governments represent workers

Short answer: We don’t know

Longer answer: We hope technology will be fully developed by then to do that stuff for us

Yes. Socialism isn’t one thing. There are different ways of structuring socialism; the most important thing is that the workers hold power. Your description aligns with the anarchist view.

Socialism isn’t just when the government “does stuff” bucko. It involves the restructuring of political economy to one where workers are in charge of state apparatus

It’s only extreme left for Americans. These people freely participate in European parliamentary politics and are seen as regulars

Leftism typically includes groups who want to abolish existing politico-economic orders in favour of entirely different ones. The terms came from the French parliament in the 19th century when faced with the question of retaining monarchy (whose proponents sat on the right) or republicanism (sat on the left).

Liberals don’t really qualify as leftists because they are fine with maintaining capitalism and can be considered centre-left at best. The left would typically start at the so-called “democratic socialists” like the Bernie Sanders and Mamdani cadre.

I’ll be sure to check it out

So are you😃

I’d say the 1st and 3rd are blehh, and the second is okay

Precisely

I mean… Have you watched Paris, Texas?

Exactly, it insists upon itself