• Jankatarch@lemmy.world
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    My dad is a 60 year old warehouse manager and ex highschool-principal.

    I recently found that he prefers using libreoffice at work for spreadsheets.

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      I did a test with a group of gen z on my work (I’m the IT guy) that never used excel before (Or used only once), and most of them liked libreoffice. The only detail was the ones that used Excel before, i change the interface to the microsoft one, but they did not liked. So they ask for the original from microslop…

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    Amazing to see Mastodon instead of Bluesky there ! Too many people falling for the Bluesky trap…

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      Yeah, I’m surprised how many go to Bluesky. It’s just Twitter all over again, controlled by a single company.

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        It wasn’t the “controlled by a single company” part that made me leave Twitter, honestly. It was the Nazi CEO…

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          that’s the best part, just as twitter was sold to a nazi bluesky can be sold to a nazi too!

          that’s what can happen when it is controlled by a single company

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        I think they do actually want Twitter again though. Admittedly, what Twitter used to be was still much better than what it is now.

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      Tbh I am on Bluesky more than Mastodon. Bluesky just feels easier to use. Normal users don’t care about federation. They want the app to work easily for them. Mastodon requires a bit to get a good feed etc. Bluesky you can be lazy. Wish Mastodon had like a default “what’s hot” or “Discover” feed. Really helps find people to follow as well.

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        Wish Mastodon had like a default “what’s hot” or “Discover” feed. Really helps find people to follow as well.

        You mean like Mastodon’s “Trending” and “Discover” feeds?

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        The last couple mastodon updates made it easier to access the trending feed (which afaik has existed since 2021) and added features like quote posts. Bluesky starter packs and custom shareable feeds are definitely its major perks.

        The odds though bluesky will get bought up by right wing billionaires in the next 10 years is almost 100% unless there’s a major change in media management laws so don’t get too attached to bluesky since there is like a nonzero chance trump jr buys it with his crypto bribes.

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        Ease of use is one of the failings of the federation that needs to be addressed or it will never have a larger pool of users.

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          But can it really be addressed? Centralized systems will probably always be easier to use. For example, if you want to follow a lemmy community, it will be community@somewhere instead of just the community name, and it will be possible to have competing communities with the same same but different servers. This will always leave people confused, and it’s something inherent to the federated model

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            That’s part of the problem. Confusion like this just leads people to not engage with the platform. I suppose it is what it is and just enjoy this place while there are still people here.

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              To complement my previous comment, I believe the best course for us would be, instead of trying to address something that will never be better than in centralized networks, to try creating things that are great and exclusive to the fediverse. People can deal with minor inconveniences if they get some unique experience in exchange

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          Open source content serving algorithms? We’d need to classify the content and have a server that recommends based on the algorithm. Also, user tracking to some degree (but maybe that can be handled locally?)

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        I don’t think that ease of use is the problem. The problem is, people want an exact copy. Most people don’t like changes, they just hope that the alternative is the same, just without the issues they leaving it. Same expectations for GIMP and Linux operating systems… (for the normie at least).

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        “Trending” gets you somewhat the way there to a “what’s hot.” Though I wish it’d update more often.

        But, in reality, that just means I get off of my phone sooner because I’ve seen the same stuff so that’s fine.

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    I mean if libre stuff is not getting off we cannot expect much from others but even this suggests they are reducing their xitter activity which is likely the way to go. Do a minimal on it to keep the recognition and expansively post in the federation.

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        Hehe, unfortunately not. But maybe you can read them soon with their brilliant software!

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        Libredoffices, what Nintendon’t.

        Tap for spoiler
                               Version 3, 19 November 2007
        
         Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. <https://fsf.org/>
         Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
         of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.
        
                                    Preamble
        
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        software and other kinds of works, specifically designed to ensure
        cooperation with the community in the case of network server software.
        
          The licenses for most software and other practical works are designed
        to take away your freedom to share and change the works.  By contrast,
        our General Public Licenses are intended to guarantee your freedom to
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          When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not
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          Developers that use our General Public Licenses protect your rights
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          A secondary benefit of defending all users' freedom is that
        improvements made in alternate versions of the program, if they
        receive widespread use, become available for other developers to
        incorporate.  Many developers of free software are heartened and
        encouraged by the resulting cooperation.  However, in the case of
        software used on network servers, this result may fail to come about.
        The GNU General Public License permits making a modified version and
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          The GNU Affero General Public License is designed specifically to
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    • Meldrik@lemmy.wtf
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      If the mastodon instance you are on doesn’t know about LibreOffice’s account, then it won’t show. You will have to search for their handle/username like this: @libreoffice@fosstodon.org

      This is mostly a problem on smaller instances. The bigger an instance is, the more connections to other instances it has.

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        Oh thanks, but I did find the correct account. Just also thing I wouldn’t expect, like lemmy. But in hindsight it’s obvious because of how the fediverse works. It was just a fun reminder of how cool the concept of federlization is.

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          Ah okay. Then I simply misunderstood you.

          It is indeed very cool how the Fediverse works. Everything is connected in one way or another other.

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      You have to understand that federation doesn’t happen instantly. Your server has to sync with the other instances before you can find the account you’re looking for.

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    Give them a follow at @libreoffice@fosstodon.org to show them support!

    Edit: I tried to search how to create the link, but couldn’t find the right info, so would appreciate any insight. But you should be able to search in Mastodon for them.

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          That’s unfortunate. I understand the admin’s perspective, but most users, myself included, are likely in the dark about these backend issues. It’s frustrating to have barriers to following people in an already small community. Is this just the inevitable tradeoff of federation? If anyone knows of a less regulated piefed instance, I’m all ears.

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            Is this just the inevitable tradeoff of federation?

            Not being able to follow someone isn’t a federation problem, it’s an instance mismatch problem.

            When you can’t follow the people you want on Twitter (because they were banned), that’s an instance mismatch. Your preferences don’t align with Twitter’s.

            The difference is that, with Twitter, there is only one instance. You can’t switch to a different Twitter where those people aren’t blocked.

            On Fedi, you can choose an instance that blocks and federates according to your preference. And if you can’t find one (unlikely for most users), you can host your own.

            If you just want Piefed instances with less regulation, these appear to have the fewest number of blocks:

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      I’m not sure if it’s Lemmy or my client (Jerboa) but when I tap on that link I don’t get their real Mastodon profile. I get something that looks legit, but it has minimal details and only one post from 9 months ago??