Now Canada has lifted most of the retaliatory tariffs, with Carney explaining that Canada has the “best deal with the United States right now.”

Canadians may choose to follow the direction of their prime minister or they may view this as an opportunity to take more responsibility and continue to use their purchasing choices to influence trade relations.

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    Trump never threatened invasion or war with Canada. He threatened and started a TRADE war over the bs fentynal crisis, but there was never a discussion of military action. Hell, when he was specifically asked if he was considering military action, he responded, “No.”

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      If you want to be anal about annexation through economic force not counting as an invasion, we can dive the pedantism rabbit hole and argue that invasion is not just about trespassing. And saying that military force is “highly unlikely” is the same as saying that it’s a possibility.

      Regardless, the guy is a liar and the threat of annexation should be seriously considered equivalent to a threat of military force. Whether he said it all in a full sentence instead of through memes and insinuations is practically irrelevant.

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      He explicitly said he would use “economic force” to conquer Canada, meaning he would break our economy and drive Canadians into poverty in order to force us to join the US. The Idiot Senator from Maine has stated how that would go - no shadows of Canada would be allowed to remain. The violence would implicitly come afterward, because the vast, vast majority of Canadians would not be okay with this - especially since we would not be allowed to vote as states, since Canada is by nature a “blue state” and Republicans would not allow more blue votes. There would be protests, perhaps even Troubles-style terrorism, and Trump would send in the military just like he is currently doing for other uppity “blue” areas like DC and Chicago.

      He wouldn’t call it “military”. He’d call it cracking down on crime, just like he is now. But people would die… probably a lot of people.

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        Be did say economic force. I’m correcting misinformation. He never threatened invasion, it just did not happen.

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          I’m correcting misinformation.

          You’re splitting hairs. Donald Trump is a delusional malignant narcissist, a stochastic terrorist, and a wannabe mafia don. He speaks in innuendo and “deniable” language: “Russia, if you’re listening”, “You won’t have to vote again”, “I need you to find me 11k votes”.

          He doesn’t threaten to invade Greenland, he’s just “going to get it one way or another.”

          He doesn’t threaten to invade Panama, he’s just “going to take it back.”

          He’s not threatening to invade Mexico, he’s “going after the gangs”.

          He’s nearly incapable of envisioning the outcome of his own actions. Nearly all the actions above would result in war. He wouldn’t call it war. Like his idol, he’d likely call it a “special military operations”. But the rest of the world would call it a war. He’s threatening war not directly, but as a direct and predictable outcome of choices.

          Of course he never threatened invasion. He would deny he’s ordering an invasion even as he orders an invasion. And the weird shit is, thanks to his mental illness, he would deny it’s an invasion, deny it’s a war, inside his own head even as he gives the orders to do so.

          And you’re sitting there “well ackchually”-ing the words of the most dishonest and delusional humans alive, as if anything he says or doesn’t say means anything at all.

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      Trump, however, told NBC that it was “highly unlikely” that the U.S. would need to use military force to make Canada the 51st state.

      “I think we’re not ever going to get to that point,” he told the interviewer Kristen Welker when asked about military action against Canada and criticizing the country’s military spending.

      He left it open ended, which is a perceived threat. He should have said NO, not highly unlikely.

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            At least it’s words that were actually said, holy hell. Idk why people want to be panicked about fantasies instead of the very real problems he’s causing.

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              Because you are picking and choosing the words that your narrative. He has used the word “annex” as well. He as used the word “51st state”. But nah, those were my just joking or something like that for you I’m sure.

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            Now correcting blatant falsehoods is support? Running around lying about stupid shit is actually harmful to any position.

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          Probably a different interview or the part prior, because he kept harping on it, and so was asked about it a lot. What I quoted was right from an interview. Since they found US spies trying to persuade Greenland people to merge with USA, I would say you 100% cannot trust trump he is a known liar, like Pathological liar; that wants to turn USA into the next North Korea

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      Because that’s not the way the USA breaks countries. They economically tie them off then “save” the “failed state”. This is done under the guise of threats like WMDs or fentanyl, ignoring that the majority of fentanyl on US streets is stolen from US hospitals.