It’s not that is is a different ecosystem, it show shows how things can get bad very quickly. People like to say that they’ve the bridge that allows any generic IMAP/SMTP client to use their service, however what if they decide to disable the bridge? People talk a lot of shit about Microsoft and Google when it comes to email but at least those two provide email over standard protocols that can be used anywhere, not proprietary stuff. I wouldn’t be comfortable with having my email hostage to proprietary stuff like that.

No. Same BS as Proton.

The spreadsheet is very opinionated for eg. Proton fails in integration very hard because you can’t use it with a generic email client without extra steps… and in some platforms like iOS your only way to use it is by using their own app.

What part of at what cost are you not getting? This is nothing with denying vaccines, there are real concern when it comes to mRNA vaccines that were simply ignored in the COVID panic. And now with all the fuzz made by COVID and the subsequent panic and mass vaccination nobody can really study or discuss the side effects properly.

Sure, let’s make more experimental, untested vaccines that may result in even more oncology cases and all kinds of heart conditions. What can go wrong.

Look, I’m all for developing new stuff and progress but things need to be done the right way, not like this. Don’t you see that pharmaceutical companies used COVID as an excuse to “prove” that mRNA was safe and now nobody can every object again to mRNA vaccines?

Okay, I don’t have anything against vaccines, and I’m fully vaccinated against more stuff that most people because I’ve to take trips to tropical places and I live in Europe. Now, COVID and related vaccines were all about profits not about public health. We’re talking about vaccines developed in record time with experimental tech, shady statistics and govts changing their “recommendations” every week based on profits above all “now we’ve friends that sell masks then let’s force everyone to use them”.

Here’s an example of how ridiculous this situation was: in my country a cousin of mine needed to take his tetanus vaccine and asked the public health system for it, the answer? “Great, we can place you on a waiting list of 6 months to a year because there’s no vaccines available for that now, the labs are using all their resources to make COVID vaccines”. Here’s the thing, tetanus is WAY more terminal than COVID ever was, especially when talking about people under 35 yo without any prior health complications. This doesn’t look reasonable at all.

All the stats on COVID, vaccines, spreading of the virus etc. are very questionable at best and then we had govts signing documents saying if things went bad then the pharmaceutical wouldn’t be prosecuted. I’ve been told that the EU contracts for most of those vaccines are nowhere to be found as well.

So yes, vaccines are important and increased our life expectancy by a lot but what happened with COVID was bullshit.

Data can easily be manipulated to show causation that doesn’t exist.

Yes, exactly in the same way the data on the COVID vaccines pointed to them being effective at preventing deaths and at avoiding the spread of the virus.

What do they offer?? An alternative to email that isn’t standard, not based in open and standard protocols like IMAP/SMPT at all and is incompatible with everything else out there that FYI is distributed. So this is basically another attempt at emulating Proton’s success and making email effetely less standardized. lol

📦 Zero Dependencies - Pure JavaScript, no build step required

This is really the best part. However the example does run a npm run build…

I would be great to have something that can be imported in a script tag like jquery and not something that requires npm and compilarion.

Dude the guy is running on system with restricted resources and you’re suggesting the most bloated and prone to fail thing ever.

The OP would be way better with Debian + Cockpit (also provider a webUI and virtual machine manager) or Debian + LXD/LXC (containers + VMs, optional webUI). Both of those solutions are way lighter and won’t mess your base system.