Data can easily be manipulated to show causation that doesn’t exist.
Yes, exactly in the same way the data on the COVID vaccines pointed to them being effective at preventing deaths and at avoiding the spread of the virus.
Way to spread the very misinformation this article highlights.
We finally have the first effective AIDS vaccine thanks to MRNA technology and we are poised to cure many other viruses in the near future. We could see the end of Alzheimer’s, Multiple Sclerosis, and Parkinson’s in our lifetime.
But no, we gotta listen to ignorant cranks spout off about nonsense while eating horse paste. As far as I am concerned people who say shit like this should be ostracized and banned from normal society.
Sure, let’s make more experimental, untested vaccines that may result in even more oncology cases and all kinds of heart conditions. What can go wrong.
Look, I’m all for developing new stuff and progress but things need to be done the right way, not like this. Don’t you see that pharmaceutical companies used COVID as an excuse to “prove” that mRNA was safe and now nobody can every object again to mRNA vaccines?
What part about we have the first effective AIDS vaccine are you not getting. This is the answer we have been looking for and all you want to do is listen to vaccine deniers!?
I get it, new technology. You are worried about possible side effects. That is a genuine concern. The problem is this concern has been blown out of proportion by people who deny science altogether.
What part of at what cost are you not getting? This is nothing with denying vaccines, there are real concern when it comes to mRNA vaccines that were simply ignored in the COVID panic. And now with all the fuzz made by COVID and the subsequent panic and mass vaccination nobody can really study or discuss the side effects properly.
Please let us know what this concern is please. I am guessing you are just misinformed because of something dumb like, “it changes our DNA!”. If that is the case, I can assure you that it is just propaganda.
Do you really believe that? You seem very knowledgeable and opinionated, based on your comment history, but I’m surprised that this is your take-away. Can you explain where you stand on vaccines?
Okay, I don’t have anything against vaccines, and I’m fully vaccinated against more stuff that most people because I’ve to take trips to tropical places and I live in Europe. Now, COVID and related vaccines were all about profits not about public health. We’re talking about vaccines developed in record time with experimental tech, shady statistics and govts changing their “recommendations” every week based on profits above all “now we’ve friends that sell masks then let’s force everyone to use them”.
Here’s an example of how ridiculous this situation was: in my country a cousin of mine needed to take his tetanus vaccine and asked the public health system for it, the answer? “Great, we can place you on a waiting list of 6 months to a year because there’s no vaccines available for that now, the labs are using all their resources to make COVID vaccines”. Here’s the thing, tetanus is WAY more terminal than COVID ever was, especially when talking about people under 35 yo without any prior health complications. This doesn’t look reasonable at all.
All the stats on COVID, vaccines, spreading of the virus etc. are very questionable at best and then we had govts signing documents saying if things went bad then the pharmaceutical wouldn’t be prosecuted. I’ve been told that the EU contracts for most of those vaccines are nowhere to be found as well.
So yes, vaccines are important and increased our life expectancy by a lot but what happened with COVID was bullshit.
Yes, exactly in the same way the data on the COVID vaccines pointed to them being effective at preventing deaths and at avoiding the spread of the virus.
Way to spread the very misinformation this article highlights.
We finally have the first effective AIDS vaccine thanks to MRNA technology and we are poised to cure many other viruses in the near future. We could see the end of Alzheimer’s, Multiple Sclerosis, and Parkinson’s in our lifetime.
But no, we gotta listen to ignorant cranks spout off about nonsense while eating horse paste. As far as I am concerned people who say shit like this should be ostracized and banned from normal society.
Sure, let’s make more experimental, untested vaccines that may result in even more oncology cases and all kinds of heart conditions. What can go wrong.
Look, I’m all for developing new stuff and progress but things need to be done the right way, not like this. Don’t you see that pharmaceutical companies used COVID as an excuse to “prove” that mRNA was safe and now nobody can every object again to mRNA vaccines?
What part about we have the first effective AIDS vaccine are you not getting. This is the answer we have been looking for and all you want to do is listen to vaccine deniers!?
I get it, new technology. You are worried about possible side effects. That is a genuine concern. The problem is this concern has been blown out of proportion by people who deny science altogether.
What part of at what cost are you not getting? This is nothing with denying vaccines, there are real concern when it comes to mRNA vaccines that were simply ignored in the COVID panic. And now with all the fuzz made by COVID and the subsequent panic and mass vaccination nobody can really study or discuss the side effects properly.
Please let us know what this concern is please. I am guessing you are just misinformed because of something dumb like, “it changes our DNA!”. If that is the case, I can assure you that it is just propaganda.
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/risks-of-cuts-to-mrna-vaccine-development
Do you really believe that? You seem very knowledgeable and opinionated, based on your comment history, but I’m surprised that this is your take-away. Can you explain where you stand on vaccines?
Okay, I don’t have anything against vaccines, and I’m fully vaccinated against more stuff that most people because I’ve to take trips to tropical places and I live in Europe. Now, COVID and related vaccines were all about profits not about public health. We’re talking about vaccines developed in record time with experimental tech, shady statistics and govts changing their “recommendations” every week based on profits above all “now we’ve friends that sell masks then let’s force everyone to use them”.
Here’s an example of how ridiculous this situation was: in my country a cousin of mine needed to take his tetanus vaccine and asked the public health system for it, the answer? “Great, we can place you on a waiting list of 6 months to a year because there’s no vaccines available for that now, the labs are using all their resources to make COVID vaccines”. Here’s the thing, tetanus is WAY more terminal than COVID ever was, especially when talking about people under 35 yo without any prior health complications. This doesn’t look reasonable at all.
All the stats on COVID, vaccines, spreading of the virus etc. are very questionable at best and then we had govts signing documents saying if things went bad then the pharmaceutical wouldn’t be prosecuted. I’ve been told that the EU contracts for most of those vaccines are nowhere to be found as well.
So yes, vaccines are important and increased our life expectancy by a lot but what happened with COVID was bullshit.
Friendly reminder that Lemmy has a user block feature, and you should use it anytime you see an asshole like this popping off.