• elevenbones@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Imagine needing to be thanked for that, yeah I can do it myself if you really have the need for pointless gratitude lol

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    The divider is so the cashier knows when to stop ringing more stuff up because it isn’t yours. If she moved the divider back afterwards, that almost implies that she wants to buy the persons behind her products. The story makes no sense, the divider is something you put up for yourself, it just happens to benefit everybody.

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    This doesn’t make a lot of sense. Amanda is talking about a “woman in Tesco”, but somehow knows the reason she took the divider back. Did the woman announce this or something? Or is it just guesswork? Or is it a bullshit made-up story? You decide!

    More to the point though, putting the divider would help her more than it helps the man. Because without the divider she risks the mans stuff being confused with her stuff, such that she might pay for items that aren’t hers, or just wait her own time. So why should the dude be thanking her if she’s actually just looking after her own interests? (And all that is aside from the fact that it is such a low-effort ordinary interaction that a person might not notice or care that it happened.)

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    I’m human and I enjoy these stories of pettiness just like anybody else.

    But if I may please speak in my “old man who has seen things” capacity for a moment, this is not the way to live. You should endeavor to do positive things every day to make life better for people around you as well as yourself. And you don’t do this because it gets you praise or rewards, you do it because of the internal rewards. It’s good for your mind.

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      Delighted to realize that my default internal voice for this man is the one from South Park.

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    I’ve given up on having expectations of other people.

    I’ve decided to just be nice to everyone no matter the circumstance or reaction. If you don’t want to be nice or polite … screw you.

    If you want to be unkind, negative or rude … I’m going away from you as fast as possible … and if I can’t avoid you, I’m giving you an earful of how I feel about your stinking guts

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      Yeah exactly. This is like holding a door for the person 2 steps behind you. It’s something that decent people do without a second thought, because it’s the right thing to do.

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      I think someone on 4chan once answered this question: It’s the only form of segregation white folks are okayed to use, so they cling to it like they do guns and religion.

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      so the cashier knows where your items end and can start the payment portion of checking out, getting you out the door more quickly

      I don’t put the divider up for the benefit of the person behind. I put it up for me. well, and also to be nice. but it benefits me

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        But there’s never really a need, or at least I’ve not seen a situation requiring it for years. You just leave a foot or so of space.

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          see, a reasonable person just leaves a gap. but some people think that if they cram the belt full, the cashier will somehow process everything more quickly.

          same people who glare at you when you don’t start loading items when the instant free space appears on the belt. like mf I got a cart full of stuff, and I know how to unpack onto the belt so they get packed back into the cart neatly, I need two feet to start laying out the big things. mfs want you to start the belt out with bananas and shit

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            Oh I see. I go for the approach of just never ever acknowledging the existence of other people in the store so I don’t give a fuck about how they feel about my belt loading. Since 90% of people kinda suck it doesn’t bother me that much. At worst I’m pissing off maybe 5 non-shitty-humans per year.

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      I’ve never understood this either. If someone is holding things in their arms it’s helpful, but if they have a cart then nothing is really gained. I can easily fill the conveyor belt by the time the person in front of me finishes paying. So getting started early feels like I am crowding them for no reason. Like flooring it between red lights; you’re just wasting energy to wait anyway.

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        I agreed with you 100% up to the end.

        There are few things in driving more irritating than some asshole coasting at 10 mph to a light when you want to turn before the light. You should accelerate and drive at a normal speed between red lights if there are other humans around you because you are not the main character. You don’t need to floor it but you should still drive to the light. I also experience this regularly as a pedestrian…either fucking stop and let me jaywalk or fucking go and let me jaywalk, coasting fucks over everyone around you.

        Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

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      so the cashier knows where one customer’s groceries end and the next begin. this feels like she’s going to punish herself, buying his groceries, out of pettiness, i guess

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        I should have been more clear: I don’t think dividers are needed. It’s possible in some stores that’s different, but usually there’s no purpose that I can see.

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    If you require a thank you you didn’t do it for them you did it for the validation, not saying you shouldn’t say thanks but that if you do something for someone you should expect nothing for it to be truly altruistic.

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    The man didn’t notice this and the cashier kept scanning all the products, hers and his. Very smart Karen, you got him!

    You’re not putting the divider for the person behind, you’re putting it for YOURSELF and the cashier.

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    I am autistic. Talking to total strangers anywhere but online is really fucking hard. I find the words catching in my throat every time I go to speak. And even then, sometimes it’s barely above a whisper.

    To a normal person, this is petty. To me and mine, this is cruel. And you have no way to tell which it will be. Maybe you shouldn’t support this.

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      You can be a victim or a victor, you made your choice…needlessly.

      You can Literally order groceries to be picked up w no human interaction or go to self check out.

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          We live in a society in which that’s the preference of most people shopping today. Thus I dont think your advice is the best advice.

          Also, If you’re gonna (needlessly) waste everyones time gonna with a meltdown by causeing a scene, then you are being as selfish as someone driving slow in the fast lane.

          This is grocery shopping, get your celery and get out. Im not saying lock him in a padded room.

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            Not saying thank you isn’t having a meltdown or making a scene, nor is it analogous to unsafe driving practices. Are you thinking this up just because they said they’re autistic?

            My advice is only to not be passive-aggressive when people don’t behave the way you think they should, which is pretty low-effort.

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        I can’t fault you. At least we should organize into groups of 150 or less, the theorized maximum number of people that your average hairless ape can comprehend compassionately.

        I propose a cell-based or council-network system that uses directly overlapping membership via 25 member subgroups, with each person a member of two groups. It maximizes empathic reach as members would better empathize with members of their two groups while increasing the likelihood members would empathize with members of a different group through the connection of another group member.

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      I’m autistic, rules are rules. The divider provider must be acknowledged.

      Voice is improved with practice. Join a toastmasters,or learn to sing?

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        Also autistic : Rules are a construct we ourself shape and create in order to archive the illusion of control over the raw anarchy that is the reality of free will and sovereign thought.

      • WraithGear@lemmy.world
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        literally, the divider is to protect the person in front from having to pay for a accidental scan of the items the person behind them may place. it’s literally is everyone’s interest that the divider is there. don’t go expecting thanks yous in general but especially when the action was in self interest

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        Putting the divider down is also polite. Why are we expected to always be the most polite or suffer cruelty if we don’t comply? It’s a two-way street.

        And my voice is fine. It’s the presssure and anxiety of the situation. The nervousness makes it harder to speak loudly.

        The point here is that removing the divider after having placed it simply for the person not thanking them is petty at best and cruel at worst, and it simply shouldn’t happen.

        People should be better, and should have some fucking grace and consider that maybe said person has a hard time speaking, or yet again worse, is mute.

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          Putting the divider down is also polite. Why are we expected to always be the most polite or suffer cruelty if we don’t comply?

          I always put the divider down behind my stuff, line behind me or no, and expect nothing in return from the people behind me. If the person in front of me can’t be arsed to put the divider down after their stuff, it’s fun to see how many of my items get scanned before they get to have an awkward conversation with the cashier. Yes I’m normal and well adjusted, why do you ask?

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          And my voice is fine. It’s the presssure and anxiety of the situation. The nervousness makes it harder to speak loudly.

          Yes, that’s why you have to practice. I got over mine by working in a hifi shop when I was 16. You have to speak to people, practice makes you better

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            I agree that we should all work on ourselves to the best of our ability, but I think the point I’m sticking on is the idea that this person deserves to be punished with revenge rudeness if they fail to perform politeness a specific way.

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            “I did something great, you must now do it or you are less than me 👋”

            Now let me condescend to you with advice that you don’t want from a pretty obviously petty person that overcame one small flaw

            Sounds great! Where do I sign up!

            Yeeeeeah fuck off with that

            And I’d tell you that, in person, both assertively and clearly

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                Yeah you clearly don’t have offline friends

                New flaw found! Gotta practice not being an asshole

                I overcame it when I was just a boy, you should practice more!

                Edit: I just couldn’t resist

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                  I think you might be taking this personally and not really understanding what it’s like.

                  It’s you that is lacking compassion.

                  Couldn’t resist what?

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    So dumb… the divider is for her and the checkout person’s benefit. for fuck sakes

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      Yeah, but social punishment for rudeness is how you get a world where strangers are polite to each other

      Causing a tiny inconvenience for yourself is worth it

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        this isn’t like somebody left a cart blocking the sidewalk in front of the store lol

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        Yeah, but social punishment for rudeness is how you get a world where strangers are polite to each other

        Bwahaha sure it is… look at what the OP posted…Do you think this event made the OP polite?

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          Yes? Obviously? Someone else got mildly publicly embarrassed for not being polite to a stranger

          As someone who does the little things like hold the door for others, I think to myself “okay, asshole” every time doesn’t acknowledge it. It makes me just a little more hesitant to do it in the future

          When someone does get called out for it, it’s incredibly vindicating. Even seeing it second hand is validating

          There’s such a thing as a good Karen. Society does need Karens, but we need them to call out people making the world a worse place in little ways like this

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              No? I just expect acknowledgement. Just a little head nod or basically any sound

              I’m not a doorman. I’m holding the door so you feel like you’re in a slightly friendlier world, I didn’t have to do this. I don’t expect others to do it for me, but my day gets a little better when they do.

              These little interactions are how a society feels friendly. It’s the fabric of civilization

              When you walk through like you’re entitled to have doors held for you, then fuck you. You’re snubbing someone trying to make the world a slightly friendlier place

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                Oh I agree about what should happen, but your argument is that if people don’t ack you then you’ll stop doing it.

                Personally I find if the person behind me isn’t even looking up to see where they’re going then I just let the door close. I’m not shutting it in their face, I’m just treating them the way they like to be treated. But that’s different from being petty and undoing the kindness – ie slamming it in their face.