My understanding is most of you are anti AI? My only question is…why? It is the coolest invention since the Internet and it is remarkable how close it can resemble actual consciousness. No joke the AI in sci fi movies is worse than what we actually have in many ways!

Don’t get me wrong, I am absolutely anti “AI baked into my operating system and cell phone so that it can monitor me and sell me crap”. If that’s what being Anti AI is…to that I say Amen.

But simply not liking a privacy conscious experience or utilization of AI at all? I’m not getting it?

  • Death_Equity@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 month ago

    Lemmy loves artists who have their income threatened by AI because AI can make what they make at a substantially lower cost with an acceptable quality in a fraction of the time.

    AI depends on being trained on the artistic works of others, essentially intellectual and artistic property theft, so that you can make an image of a fat anime JD Vance. Calling it plagiarism is a bit far, but it edges so hard that it leaks onto the balls and could cum with a soft breeze.

    AI consumes massive amounts of energy, which is supplied through climate hostile means.

    AI threatens to take countless office jobs, which are some of the better paying jobs in metropolitan areas where most people can’t afford to live.

    AI is a party trick, it is not comparable to human or an advanced AI. It is unimaginative and not creative like an actual AI. Calling the current state of AI anything like an advanced AI is like calling paint by numbers the result of artistry. It can rhyme, it can be like, but it can never be original.

    I think that about sums it up.

  • ganymede@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    ignoring the hate-brigade, lemmy users are probably a bit more tech savvy on average.

    and i think many people who know how “AI” works under the hood are frustrated because, unlike most of it’s loud proponents, they have real-world understanding what it actually is.

    and they’re tired of being told they “don’t get it”, by people who actually don’t get it. but instead they’re the ones being drowned out by the hype train.

    and the thing fueling the hype train are dishonest greedy people, eager to over-extend the grift at the expense of responsible and well engineered “AI”.

    but, and this is the real crux of it, keeping the amazing true potential of “AI” technology in the hands of the rich & powerful. rather than using it to liberate society.

  • SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    How can I say this? Enormous power in unskilled and greedy hands only leads to collapse. Well, and AI is like a control tool and not an assistant as you think. I’m not even saying that he kills a living soul and makes life empty and dead. For me personally, he is a serious threat. I advise you not to be too optimistic, we are not in some kind of utopia, you know?

  • Asetru@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    It is the coolest invention since the Internet and it is remarkable how close it can resemble actual consciousness.

    No. It isn’t. First and foremost, it produces a randomised output that it has learned to make look like other stuff on the Internet. It has as much to do with consciousness as a set of dice and the fact that you think it’s more than that already shows how you don’t understand what it is and what it does.

    AI doesn’t produce anything new. It doesn’t reason, it isn’t creative. As it has no understanding or experience, it doesn’t develop or change. Using it to produce art shows a lack of understanding of what art is supposed to be or accomplish. AI only chews up what’s being thrown at it to vomit it onto the Web, without any hint of something new. It also lacks understanding about the world, so asking it about decisions to be made is not only like asking an encyclopedia that comes up with answers on the fly based on whether they sound nice, regardless of the answers being correct, applicable or even possible.

    And on top of all of this, on top of people using a bunch of statistical dice rolls to rob themselves of experiences and progress that they’d have made had they made their own decisions or learned painting themselves, it’s an example of the “rules for thee, not for me”. An industry that has lobbied against the free information exchange for decades, that sent lawyers after people who downloaded decades old books or movies for a few hours of private enjoyment suddenly thinks that there might be the possibility of profits around the corner, so they break all the laws they helped create without even the slightest bit of self-awareness. Their technology is just a hollow shell that makes the Internet unusable for all the shit it produces, but at least it isn’t anything else. Their business model, however, openly declares that people are only second class citizens.

    There you are. That’s why I hate it. What’s not to hate?

    • WaffleWarrior@lemmy.zipBanned from communityOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      I am will aware it is not conscious 🙄. Hence the word RESEMBLES.

      But here’s the scary thing. Even with all your song and dance you just typed when we are interacting with AI our brains literally can not tell the difference between human interaction and AI interaction. And that to me…is WILD and so trippy

  • zbyte64@awful.systems
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 month ago
    1. How Generative AI is framed by the industry is an affront to humanistic values.

    https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/tech-ceos-dont-seem-to-realise-just-how-anti-human-their-ai-fanaticism-is-and-i-think-its-all-because-of-the-enlightenment/

    1. It’s not even close to consciousness. For those of us who understand how these things work it’s almost an insult to make the comparison.

    https://addxorrol.blogspot.com/2025/07/a-non-anthropomorphized-view-of-llms.html

    1. All the other unethical considerations mentioned elsewhere by others (stealing art, water usage, politics).
    • WaffleWarrior@lemmy.zipBanned from communityOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      I am well aware it is not conscious but just like with Porn…our bodies and brains can’t seem to differentiate between real vs what’s on the screen. And that to me is remarkable

  • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 month ago

    lol, you’re getting downvoted just for asking, that should sum up the whole argument.

    The hate is real here, and IMO most of it is unjustified. There are a few good points that are made:

    • Training data was not ethically sourced. Can’t get around that, it just wasn’t. It was legal-ish, but it wasn’t moral. Image generators especially, the art was not willingly given - but IMO if you aren’t taking work out of their hands I don’t have a major issue with it.
    • Same as your issue, AI is being shoved everywhere embodying the “If you’re a hammer everything is a nail”.
    • Privacy concerns as you’ve talked about, and security.

    That being said, I don’t have any issues with using it at home, local LLMs, and I’ll even say I use it daily to help with coding. I’ve been coding for 20 years and I have to admit it does help, if you know when to use it. It has sped me up considerably.