It’s not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.

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    It’s like nuance doesn’t exist.

    Yes, there were a lot of false accounts of rape on October 7th that were obviously framed based on hateful stereotypes intended to dehumanize. There were also actual rapes that did happen. But to some people everything is black and white and all they care about is whoever is on their ‘side’.

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      You’ll need to supply evidence for those claims. Creating false accounts of rape is very serious.

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        https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-un-rape-oct7-hamas-gaza-fe1a35767a63666fe4dc1c97e397177e

        The U.N. envoy focusing on sexual violence in conflict said in a new report Monday that there are “reasonable grounds” to believe Hamas committed rape, “sexualized torture,” and other cruel and inhumane treatment of women during its surprise attack in southern Israel on Oct. 7.

        The exaggerated and fictional accusations of rape are serious, like the parading through the streets nonsense.

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            You are replying to a comment that supports the fact that rape did occur as part of the Oct 7th attack.

            Are you not able to understand that they both did rape and ALSO that Israel greatly exaggerated it with false claims to dehumanize?

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                  Can you go into detail about what ‘Israel greatly exaggerates’ means exactly?

                  Since according to that article, it seems to imply that it was an individual’s mistake as opposed to Israel.

                  Otmazgin said it has been difficult to rein Landau in, both because he vehemently believes in his version and because there is no way to stop journalists from engaging with him directly. Both Otmazgin and Bukjin attributed Landau’s continued belief in the false account to him having been deeply traumatized by what he saw in the aftermath of Oct. 7.

                  Furthermore, it was Israeli government agencies that disputed the claims made by these two individuals. So, I don’t see how Israel can greatly exaggerate the claims while also disputing them – it just doesn’t make sense.

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                    You don’t see how they could because you don’t understand propaganda. By promoting the fictional stories, including the false accounts of rape and the baby in the oven and other blatantly false stories they can fall back on the ones that did happen, but the false stories will stick in people’s minds. How long has the old ‘human shields’ chestnut been used to excuse civlian deaths in hospitals and homes of Palestians? How many times has Israel blamed someone else when they shoot into crowds trying to get food? The lies stuck with the general population as long as they are able to get out first as kong as there is one true case that ends up proving the lies could possibly be plausible.

                    People remember what they want to remember, including made up exaggerations intended to dehumanize others of things that actually happened.