Lots of people around me are excited for a racist march organised by flag-shagging, far-right knuckle-dragger Tommy Robinson.
So let’s call it a guideline rather than a rule.
Let’s make it “if someone is excited about something that doesn’t hurt other people…”
How about pro sportball? Those dudes get wrecked, but it’s largely considered acceptable to be excited about…
This is absolutely too general of a blanket statement. Piss all over the joy of fascists, that makes you a good person.
I’m not sure fascists feel joy. I think they can only feel anger and hatred. Maybe malicious schadenfreude at best.
They sure sound giddy when they’re infringing on our rights.
They’re brainwashed and have twisted views on most things, including what joy feels like.
Some people are sociopaths and genuinely can’t feel joy. Put those people in positions of influence (like we have), and the meaning of joy takes on the twisted meaning ascribed by mob mentality.
That’s what we need to fix. The reason we’ve been successful as a species for hundreds of thousands of years is because we’re a highly cooperative species who takes care of each other. We’re strong together.
Sociopaths being in charge ruins that. They’re less than 5% of the population, by the way. We don’t need to let them do this to us.
Wouldn’t schadenfreude already be malicious?
I’m sure deep down you understand the type of situation OP means.
Yeah there are limits to this for sure. If the thing you enjoy actively harms people around you then thats a no from me dawg. If you give in to endless consumerism and that excites you, then i will bully you for it.
People feeling joy don’t become fascists.
Yeah, this is a worthless platitude. I wish this stuff wasn’t so mindlessly upvoted.
It’s important to respect that joy can be derived from different sources, but when a third of America is reveling in the misery of others, there are bigger fish to dry than protecting everyone’s feelings equally.
People were excited about Trump being elected and I make them feel shitty about it. How am I a bad person?
I think the post is more along the lines of people who like MCU releases and pumpkin spice lattes.
That stuff is all harmless, and I agree with the post in that spirit.
Dude tell me about it. I had a girl tell me she was exited about the tswift engagement and I just went full asshole mode for some reason and was like “oh you gonna go to their wedding? Big friends with Taylor?” … Idk why I decided to be a jerk but … Yeah I still feel low-key guilty about that but she’s said/done plenty worse so I probably should let that shit go.
Anyways, yeah I guess I’m saying sometimes I think people may not be totally aware in the moment of their dickishness so learn from me and just STFU if someone is happy for some dumb shit.
Did you apologize to her? Sounds like you were taking some of your frustration out on her and that’s probably not fair.
Yes, I’m not that big of a dick. My apology led to her sharing some silly shit she’s said to her buddies that were akin to my slip up.
It’s not like I punched her in the face and spit on her lol, if I had couched it better it would have probably just been funny but I just went hella sarcastic and dick mode.
In context she had said she got really good news then showed me the announcement on her phone so I was like expecting some actually good news for her not some stupid celebrity tabloid shit that’s ultimately meaningless.
Idk I know we all need our bread and circuses, I’m wrapped up in plenty of equally inane and pointless crap same as everyone else - sometimes I just am bad at being a human. I’m not very good at socializing in general, it’s something I’ve had to learn and try to study and be good at still - definitely does not come naturally to me. I’ve gotten pretty good at pretending, I’m a decent “professional people person” when I turn my human mask part of my brain on since reading people is something I’ve had to focus on because I can’t just socialize like a human being normally does.
But yeah that’s a very long way of saying, yes I’m not that mean of a guy.
What if I am excited about making people feel stupid?
Then I’m excited for you.
Nice volley 😉
Damn. Now I feel stupid for being excited about making people feel stupid.
The obvious exception to this is cases of addiction or poor life decisions.
Like if you collect/play Pokemon or whatever as a hobby and are excited to get a rare card, that’s great and I’m happy for you.
If you’re underwater on your mortgage and your basement is full of beanie-babies - that you’re sure will make you rich in the future - but you just won a bid of $1000 for one rare beanie on eBay… yeah I’m not gonna be happy for you I’m gonna recommend talking to a professional
You just don’t understand, once I can get my hands on that Jonbenet Ramsey Beanie Baby it’s going to be my retirement plan, six months of back rent will seem paltry at that point, you’ll see. I’ve got big things going on, BIG THINGS!
LaBuenie Buaby
/gets excited about generative A.I.
It is pretty impressive. It’s one step closer to making something like a holodeck where you can generate a virtual world on demand.
That being said the companies that are pushing it and using it aren’t being very ethical about it
It’s interesting how in Star Trek they had a holodeck full of completely believable visuals, amazing generated sound, “hard light” making believable surfaces, characters who were extremely realistic, etc. But, the only holodeck character to ever be considered possibly sentient was Moriarty, and it required that they ask for a character capable of outwitting Data. Meanwhile, the sentient “computer” in the series was Data, who had a lot of quirky mannerisms that made it obvious he wasn’t at all human, despite really wanting to be.
In the real world, Silicon Valley is convinced that because GenAI can make something that can mimic a human they think they’re weeks or days away from AGI which will lead immediately to ASI. Meanwhile, nobody in Star Trek thought that holodeck tech was a profitable area of research for true AI. I think I trust the Star Trek writers more than Silicon Valley on this one.
Eh, I wouldn’t read too much into that angle. The computer and holodeck were pretty much deus ex machinas for Star Trek, written to do as much or as little as the plot required. They could just handwave the computer creating a super intelligent AI because Data requested it, or say the holodeck is capable of simulating bleeding edge warp core innovation (though the crew still had to tweak parameters and often were able to suceed “live” after failing many times guided by the computer because human intuition trumps all).
Star Trek is more useful for considering philosophical questions than technical ones, even though they did put a lot of effort into making it a hard tech world rather than a soft tech one. But when delving into unknown technology, eventually you need to use some soft tech that just works without any real world explanation. And any AI- or computer-related stuff fell into that “soft tech surrounded by hard tech” category.
Star Trek is more useful for considering philosophical questions than technical ones,
This is basically a philosophical question though. Can you achieve artificial intelligence by imitating it closely enough. GenAI imitates intelligence, and a lot of the Silicon Valley techbros think that it’s going to lead to actual intelligence.
The philosophy of Star Trek seems to be no. For them there was a fundamental difference in how an artificial brain would work so that you couldn’t get there with just a powerful computer. That’s why Data had a “positronic net” and not just a powerful version of the isolinear circuits they had in the normal computers.
The LLM, I kinda get, you can almost picture training a word predictor.
Working code with comments is pretty mindblowing even if it’s not better than a professional.
But diffusion… that’s BLACK MOTHERFUCKING MAGIC.
Here’s a picture of me, Here’s a picrture of me with a hat. the vector between the two is hat. Now put a hat on that squirrel… works…
I’m sure it doesn’t work as well as depicted, but speaking of black magic (and holodecks)… Genie 3.
If they could deliver on one-hundredth of that, it will be truly amazing.
They can’t be generating a straight up video and that would be way too slow.
They said that they’re not using pre-built worlds, so they’re not pre-generating an entire world that you can run around in, which would still be fucking great.
I wonder if they’re dynamically creating procedural world generation. then dynamically creating occasional assets as you demand.
Seems like it would be too slow and power hungry to do it any other way.
At some point we’re going to get some crazy amazing games out of this.
OHHH let’s get downvoted together!!!
It’s REALLY good at some things, like better than it should be by any stretch of the imagination.
If you are excited about hyperconsumerist slop, I will shame you
What if you’re excited about military adventurism or the latest pogrom of an ethnic or religious minority?
Believe it or not, straight to jail
What if you make an appointment at the dentist and don’t show up?
“Teeth were a problem, I ignored them, it went away”
~Asmongold
Believe it or not, absolutely nothing!
Oh boy! I can’t wait to see more billionaires persecuted!
Absolutely true! I wish people would just not ruin other people’s happiness. It’s really not that difficult!
I’ve just stopped telling my friends anything recently. it’s either met with zero response, or a 1 word answer. no point in feeling good about personal things around them when it’s just stifled quickly.
Oh dayum, that is really aweful to hear :/
I’m sorry they kind of suck in that area. Do you wanna share something that made you happy that they just didn’t get? Because I would love to hear about something that made you happy (even if only something small or simple)Awwww, I’m not the original commenter, but that’s so sweet of you
This is a weird coincidence. I just finished watching Lizzie McGuire yesterday and the last episode was precisely about not letting snobs ruin your enjoyment of something. She and her mates went to watch a live recording of a toddler show and got made fun of by Kate.
Yes, I’m a middle aged woman who likes re-watching shows from when I was younger. Anyone doesn’t like that, that’s a them problem. I could have done with a mate like Gordo as a kid though. He’s very A Team friendly.
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Oh man, i’m so excited about punching the next person i see in the face!
Fuck yeah. Civil normaltism is as like cancer and slavery combined.
punching the next person i see in the face!
This is an opportunity. you need to look for official vans in the home depot parking lot.
I feel like that’s the wrong suggestion. If you’re going to be dragged off to a black site, maybe make it worth it, ya know?
I mean, I dunno if I’d support someone being like “Yay, meth!”
But have you tried meth?
A valid question, for I have not.
My coworker and i usually nerd out over some space shit but he keeps being excited for space x stuff. I always tear that down because fuck Elon. Other people are still doing cool space shit to get excited about.
Happened to me way too often as a kid (from other kids, never my family), and I’ve only just now begun to realize it’s why I feel such embarrassment if I ever allow myself to get excited/show excitement. God forbid I ever let myself get animated, I end up laying in bed every night for literal weeks afterwards replaying it through some fucked up filter that just gets worse and worse until I’m convinced I’ve humiliated myself irrevocably, and I stop interacting with other humans for a long time. The only places I can allow myself to be excited/animated are online and with my family.
Recently went to visit a friend and ended up getting positively hyped while helping one of his friends build a rube goldberg machine. Friend I went to visit ended up having a medical episode, and mentioned in his drugged up state that he was a little jealous of how quickly I and his friend hit it off, and I still haven’t recovered. Me and rube goldberg machine guy really clicked, but I haven’t been able to bring myself to even text the guy because I can’t get past the embarrassment of it. Friend I visited said it was like watching Romeo and Juliet meet.
To live is to cringe. There really is no antidote.
What happened to, um… JoCat? So many people were mad about the girls animation that they bullied him off the internet for a bit, and only after he was gone were they like “I agree with the cartoon, I just don’t like people knowing that about me.”
If you don’t mind me asking, what do you find embarrassing about building a sick-ass fuckin’ rube goldberg machine? I really can’t imagine somebody doing that without joy.
Building the machine wasn’t embarrassing, getting all animated and excited around other humans was embarrassing. I know it isn’t. I know that isn’t normal. I don’t know why I have that reaction later on, other than when I was a kid other kids made fun of me whenever I did. Like, if I ever got excited and hyper or something other kids would laugh and make comments about I was fat and it I moved around I’d jiggle. Shit like that. It made me end up with basically the mindset that I need to be stoic all the fucking time unless I’m very close to someone. The friend I visited has been one of my best for 20 years (online/phone), and his friend and I clicked so fast that my barriers sort of dropped unexpectedly, and I ended up getting really excited and animated. Basically I leave situations like that feeling like I’ve made a fool of myself. A fat, ugly fool.
Our brains suck sometimes
Hm. Yeah, that’s a deep well to climb out of.
Well, I’m sure you know there’s no getting out of this prison without banging at the walls, right? :p I only learned to sing by challenging myself to be uncomfortable.
Do you find that it’s easier if you talk to people later and they’re like “no, I didn’t think anything was weird; it was a joy to be around you!” or is it like a “your brain wouldn’t believe them anyway” kind of thing?
Not to cool your jets, but I’ve met worse types of persons
Impossible. The meme has spoken!
Definetely in the top 10 billion worst types of people.
So true. Being judgemental is stupid and old fashioned in the worst way. If it’s not hurting people, why judge it? Let people live, ffs.
If they leave me alone about it after I politely express my disinterest I will, if not I’ll take it as asking for my full opinion on the subject and that will be brutally honest.
You need to learn about autism and also children
Knowing I have no patience with them I avoid children as much as possible and enteract with them even less.
Surely making assumptions builds solid relationships.
Like making the assumption that I to talk about whatever it is they’re prattling on about.
Is someone shoving beliefs at you? Which beliefs and where? That might be very rude, depending on the context.
It’s not as dramatic as that. Don’t talk to me about sports, religion, or whatever pop culture you’re into. Enjoy them for yourself by yourself. Online I can choose to engage or not, in public I’m way more limited.
