I got Kotor 2 on android and it’s teh funs.

I’m restarting as this man character because the character Handmaiden wouldn’t join me as a woman and no matter how good relationship I got with any female character, no romance.

I looked it up and kotor 1, an ancient game, ‘accidentally’ had one potential lesbian relationship in which it seems they tried to erase the romance before release but didnt get all of it so one or two romance options still existed woman to woman.

kotor 2 tho they thoroughly made nonlgbtq and no options anywhere for anything lgbtq.

So kotor 2 is from a while ago and now games are often more lgbtq friendly.

thinking tho it’s interesting how, because there are no options for woman x woman, if i want to have the option of relationships with women, i am forced to not be Lesbian but actually Transman.

Hence the topic. I would be more comfortable just being woman romancing women. But, because of the transphobia underlying the game, I am actually forced to take on a masculine identity for those relationships I want. It feels weird; like, because they removed all avenues for transpeople to be themselves, the only way to be near who i want is to go extra far and masculinize myself, as a woman, beyond what I normally would. Like they try to block trans but, in so doing, they reinforce it more powerfully. Same would be true were i a gay man. If i want male romance options, i cant just be gay; i also have to present female.

playing this game knowing what i do now, it feels like restriction of lgbtq instead reinforces it harder. Is this a more widespread facet of antiLGBTQ structures? only in digital roleplaying? meow?

  • Stovetop@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    16 hours ago

    thinking tho it’s interesting how, because there are no options for woman x woman, if i want to have the option of relationships with women, i am forced to not be Lesbian but actually Transman.

    To me this seems more like a regression towards earlier interpretations of homosexuality that saw queer people as “inverts” where gender identity was inherently linked to sexuality.

    I wouldn’t say that it is a trans-positive idea at all, but instead a very flawed practice of trying in vain to make all aspects of sexuality fit a strict binary that we know today is not consistent with reality. Countries used to force gay men to undergo feminizing treatments or sexual reassignment surgery (some even still do) as a “corrective” to their disorder, which is the sort of practice that drove Alan Turing to suicide.

  • AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    18 hours ago

    KOTOR 2 had so many development problems that you really should be modding it. The trans community was almost completely invisible when the game released, especially trans men (I was in high school and my eggy self would have benefitted from greater visibility) so… Just mod the lesbian stuff in while you’re adding the other mods.

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    17 hours ago

    At this point, it’s probably more acceptable to be gay, yet more trans people are visible now than before.

    So, I don’t think it’s an adaptation to societal norms. If that’s what you mean.