I cross a bridge over a river

Maybe this comment would have been accurate 10 years ago.

No one said irrelevant. Running local AI is extremely niche though

I’m “trolling” yet you’re the one failing to address my argument and also the one calling names… sorry you got duped and overpaid for a laptop that you’re likely going to just end up throwing out and replacing for cheaper…

Loses the argument and resorts to name calling… classic

It is a fact that by the time a CPU upgrade is warranted and you have to replace literally the entirety of the guts of the laptop (because the CPU is soldered…), besides the hard drive and maybe the RAM if you get really lucky with the upgrade path, the rest of the parts will have no value and will be worn, either needing refresh too, or not worth holding onto. For 99.9% it makes more sense to just buy a new laptop (for literally cheaper than framework) at that point

and isn’t repairable

If the components aren’t soldered, then yes, it is. 🤦 My laptop is actually easier to repair than a framework is.

The ports are the silliest of the novelties lol. My laptop just has the ports I need, including an SD reader, and I didn’t have to pay outrageous prices for each port…

The core value proposition is a scam that is not realistic or cost effective for 99.9% of framework laptop owners. Fact.

The only thing I could see being an issue with a desktop motherboard are built-in wifi, bluetooth, or sound chips, and that’s really not been an issue to worry about for years. Complete non-issue for any Intel chipsets, which are basically all officially supported. I think otherwise I really only see like Realtek, which is supported. At worst you just need to install proprietary drivers.

Sounds like framework’s motherboard has poorly implemented ACPI, but this would not be an issue for manufacturers for typical desktop hardware (ASUS, ASRock, MSI, Gigabyte)

lot of manufacturers don’t actually officially support it

Huh???

Intel and AMD CPUs are officially supported in the linux kernel… AMD’s official graphics driver is part of the linux kernel. NVIDIA offers official graphics drivers for linux, although they are proprietary.

I’d have wasted a lot more time trying to debug what was going on with Mint if they hadn’t documented the need for a 6.11 kernel on their website, for example…

6.11 kernel

So… in other words… it literally is supported by the linux kernel…

Yeah I’m obviously not comparing to soldered components, so most of your comment is completely irrelevant.

The options you’re claiming can’t be configured, 1) literally can be, or 2) are silly novelties

$700 cheaper than a ridiculously overpriced laptop? Wow totally great point. 😂

I’m yet to be proven wrong. Enjoy holding onto an old beat up laptop case over the years for… reasons… totally worth it

officially supports linux

Comparing to just building a desktop, I don’t think you can easily build one that isn’t officially supported on linux…?

The unified memory is the only part of this machine that can’t be had for way cheaper with a custom build, and it’s interesting only for super niche reasons anyway.

Yes… they literally all do… 🤦

Here, let’s go through them each together:

Which other brand let’s you pick and choose your storage, ram, display, keyboard, etc.

Choice of storage? Yup.

Choice of memory? Yup.

Choice of display? Yup.

Choice of keyboard? Yup.

Choice of OS/battery/secondary drives/power adapter? Yup.

🙃

Lol okay!

Lenovo website > Make your own PC page > select base model (choice of screen and keyboard) > Build your PC button (choice of other components)

Dell website > choose base model > Explore Options > Build Your Own > Customize now button

HP website > choose base model > Customize & Buy button

KFocus website > choose base model > all components must be configured before you can order

Which other laptop let’s you swap out the main board?

I mean my point is that you’re realistically never going to do this, because its a huge premium and costs about the same as a new laptop… why swap a brand new mainboard into an old and worn out laptop…

Which other brand let’s you pick and choose your storage, ram, display, keyboard, etc.

Uhhhh literally all of them??? Every laptop I’ve owned was built by customizing all the individual components on the manufacturers website.

My laptop (KFocus brand) is like 8 phillips screws, the back comes off, and there’s full easy access to memory, drives, and network cards for simple replacement. Pretty sure it’s fewer screws than framework lol

Framework is a scam. Components you are likely to actually change out are just as upgradeable/replaceable as any other laptop with non-soldered components (keyboard, drives, memory, battery, wireless adapters, screen). In order to upgrade a part like CPU, you still have to replace the whole motherboard and pay a premium close to the cost of a laptop, anyway. At that point, what is the value of holding onto a likely-several-years-old case and screen that have probably suffered wear and tear…? It doesn’t really make any sense…

You nailed it for the desktop. The only reason why someone should buy one is because they specifically want this AMD APU for unified memory that comes in it

Bring on the downvotes by fanboys coping with buyers’ remorse

The 3rd paragraph is really confusing to me. What is this about a satyr? Also why talk about god and midas? I’m really confused lol.

I’m not sure why you mention OpenAI alignment, because neither Pony/Stable Diffusion, nor T5 XXL/Flan are related to OpenAI?

Okay, but the “words” for your prompt are coming from text you see in the images output by the model? Or you’re writing your own words in a way that follows “rules” you’ve derived from that text?

If I understand correctly, you’re trying to interpret gibberish text in the image output and write prompts in a similar style?

Honestly, probably lol

I do have an antenna and get some decent channels with it

You’re not wrong, although I think I’d still have to wait for the smart-TV OS to load and navigate the menu to select the Cable input.