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  • But they’ll likely be older, and learn to be more tech savvy to get around the block.

    The school my kid attens provide Chromebooks, with a tight control of course.

    That’s why 11y old had to learn from one of their classmates how to bypass the control. Thanks to tech protection they were safe from accidentally finding porn (did that ever happen to anyone in real life??) for at least one week.

    The only part I mentioned was child development, which research has shown to have a negative impact (just like we did with cigarettes and alcohol).

    We all agree. Yet I don’t understand why you so much want to defend a mechanism that is already failing its stated purpose. In case you missed it: it is a miserable total failure. It just increased VPN usage. That, and the massive data collection. Period. Nothing else achieved.

    So now I guess it’s going to be ok to control VPN.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/vpns-porn-online-safety-act-childrens-commissioner-b2810092.html

    That’s going to fail, by the way. Then I guess you must ban Tor at ISP level. Completely block it, for the sake of the children.

    Then, then, then…

    Then children are still exposed to porn, but we’re working on it! Meanwhile, would you come to the station explain why you visited that website and posted that nasty anonymous comment about the PM last wednesday night?



  • Why do we regulate alcohol and cigarettes? Why dont parent’s just parent their kids? How would the kid even bave the money to buy them in the first place? To be clear, when these restrictions were being put in place, people absolutely had the exact same arguments you are making right now. The onus is on the parents.

    And so now no kid can’t access alcohol or cigarettes, right? Right?? Aaaaah, yes they can…

    Even kids with parents that have reasonable restrictions are easily able to access internet pornography because internet devices are everywhere. Internet devices are easier to access than cigarettes and alcohol, and can do just as much damage to their development. Why wouldn’t the government also control access to confirm someone’s age.

    It’s going to have exactly the same efficiency: none. Kids educated enough to know they shouldn’t seek it won’t. The others will definitely find a way to get it. We will never hear about it after. There will be no report, stats, anything. How much stats have you seen on the efficiency of “anti-terrorists” laws?

    Please do not respond to me about giving out your ID if you do not acknowledge my comment on use zero knowledge proof’s to verify you’re over an age.

    I don’t acknowledge vaporware.

    “Child’s protection”, “anti-terrorist”, “against pedophile” so many emotionally triggering words so that we slowly accept more and more control. Had this been proposed 10 years ago, people would have screamed this is “soviet-style”. Nowadays, it’s just one more small step.

    I don’t give it another 10 years before you accept webcams in your house with IA monitoring you with complete guaranteed privacy as the IA is only to report cases of harm on children by their caretakers. It will just take a bit more push and a big case of child abuse on the news. We do watch people’s behavior outside the house, right? Why not inside? How many more kids are you ready to sacrifice in the name of privacy??


  • The internet is different, and it’s currently the wild west.

    As opposed to real world where I could buy alcohol without any problem at 15–16 and was offered cigarettes at the same age despite both being forbidden in my country? If kids wants something bad enough, they’ll get it. The stronger the ban, the higher the interest it creates for teens.

    Again, if done correctly, it can be done privately and securely.

    The only thing you could try is parental control on their devices. Be aware they will seek other devices outside, from their friends, etc. UK has seen an explosion of VPNs use since implementation of their control: it’s miserably failing already.

    Or is it? Many adults went through the ID confirmation process…

    Education: that works! Mindless coercion never works. But the advocate of these solutions know that very well. The kids were never their target.





  • We’ve been hearing about this decades.

    Yes, you’ve been hearind that for decades, just like climate change: if you wait for an abrupt treshold with a clear before/after cut , you’re going to wait for a while.

    China has developed an advanced high speed trains network. You have no idea how much US looks backward on that.

    China still opens coal burning power plants, jut also a very large number of renewable and nuclear power plants. They’re serious about electrification.

    They took the lead in scientific publication.

    US needs to put up tariffs to protect its car makers from being wiped out by Chinese ones. Western car makers rely more and more on Chinese batteries suppliers.

    All the signs are there. You just need to ackowledge them.

    People underestimate just how corrupt, dysfunctional, and incompetent the Chinese system is under the CCP.

    As compared to what? In the US, corruption is legal, it’s called campaign donation and SuperPAC. At this stage, elections pick which pack of oligarchs will rule: GOP donators or Dems donators.

    If the system is so much better, where are the high speed trains, advanced power grid, decarbonation plan, school that can get high potentials to the top, decent healthcare system?

    Where are the fruits of this less corrupt dysfunctional and incompetent system?

    China’s isolation give it the illusion that it’s better, but in reality, it’s even worse.

    Alother delusion from local US news. China is not that isolated, they have developed deep relations with a number of countries in Africa and middle east, and they’re a privileged trade partner with many more. Worse even: with the current US policy of tariffs, several countries that were reluctant to have deeper ties with China are pushed in their arms.

    Every major Chinese achievement from their mass transit system to their big corporations to their economic growth to them pulling ahead technologically to so many more, all come with big asterisks attached that make them much more questionable.

    Meaning what? Their high speed trains are absolutely working. In large cities, half of the cars in the street are electric cars, majority from domestic brands and a few Tesla. They have very advanced and very cheap mass transit networks.

    As I was saying: it’s just like global warming: if you sit and wait claiming it’s not really happening and/or not that bad, you’re totally unprepared when disasters hit you.

    The only thing I will agree with you here is their emonomy is not half as great as they want to claim. The estate market has been in a free fall in all but the big 4 cities (Beijing, Shanghai, Guandong, Shenzhen).

    But if the US wants to be the first power of the rest of the 21st century world, they need to wake up!