I also apologize.

I guess we have to agree to disagree and agree to agree? LLM design happens to be my area of work for the last 4 months or so and I tend to agree that it’s a hateful domain without much to offer. That said, my ability to do my job is extremely enabled by perplexity.ai. I think about 95% of regular people’s queries to generative AI of any kind is a waste of effort an active pursuit of brain atrophy, but there is definitely some upside.

I don’t think that sentiment is echoed by the original post. I also think that with the overwhelming number of anti/fuck ai posts it’s worth highlighting upside when there is upside. Last, I just don’t in any way think that someone who writes a full bore “ai is evil” post has left any space to discuss any sort of benefit. So that’s my main disagreement with you. I think “AI is stupid” is implied if there’s no single positive mention.

I can honestly say perplexity.ai has saved me hours of technical research debugging, and I’ve got a PhD in rocket science and Ive been programming since 2003. By and large it’s totally stupid, but if you know what you need and what good answers look and feel like, it’s hard to be like “AI BAD!” which is the majority perspective of this type of thread.

Let me try again. I also try not to be rude, but a one word “huh?” answer rubbed me the wrong way. Clean slate is fine by me.

Top Level Comment: “[I found a use for AI.]” My response: “[Although it sounds like you’re responding to what OP said, that doesn’t really contradict OP since they never claimed it has no uses. They are objecting to AI on different grounds entirely.]”

I take issue with this bit:

that doesn’t really contradict OP since they never claimed it has no uses.

Which is the source of your “forest for the trees” comment.

I don’t think that a reasonable person can, based on the reading of the OPs “AI is everywhere and evil” post, presume to say that the OP believed there are good uses for AI. I will probably edit this post for your particular wording. Since in voyager I can’t simultaneously reply and look at the comment chain.

Edit: having read the rant now several times, and in no way is it ever implied in any way that there’s anything good about AI. Sure, there’s no phrase that you said, or that OP says, that imply that it’s explicitly NOT useful. That, however, I would say is the “miss the forest for the trees” part. It strikes me as totally justifiable to say “I have found some uses for AI” in light of a blanket negative OP post. I don’t think the guy you initially replied to is missing anything.

Hopefully that fully articulates my position.

Considering the blanket negative post by OP, it’s weird to think that OP thinks there’s some utility. There’s no question of forests or trees, just you putting words in the mouth of the poster.

“Ah yes, AI has many very reasonable use cases and is often quite useful, but is also super evil. I will avoid it and make posts about avoiding it.” - you know, a forest of people

What?

OP wasn’t saying it’s never useful, I think you may have missed the forest for the trees.

- you

You have no evidence to back this claim. OP makes no claim AI is in any way useful at any time. Basically, it seems like you’re talking out of your ass. And also apparently too lazy to reread a comment chain? Or do you usually just grunt at people?

Exactly. There’s some value to AI,but ai would say it’s 85% hype and inflated bullshit. People though spend a ton of calories complaining about AI and how inescapable it is, while I find it more difficult to escape people complaining about AI than AI itself.

Yes it hallucinates, yes it makes you dumber, yes it’s actually a blanket term that people really say when they mean LLMs, yes some people do get some utility from it. But mostly, jesus, your opinion has been expressed on the Internet already, STFU.

I didn’t defend anybody or anything. Generally I agree, but I don’t need to post about it when every third post on Lemmy is the same old shit with the whole comment section clapping and shaking hands.

Luckily, hating Tesla and AI are now personality trait, right, wrong, or indifferent.

The whole premise is about avoiding it at all costs and that being difficult to do. Where in that ranty wall is a statement about the utility of AI?

Thank you! I skimmed for that and gave up.

I have kids now so some of this applies less but!

I totally agree with you. I don’t usually have a checked bag when it’s just me, so there’s no waiting around the baggage claim to look forward to. I DO NOT stop to pull my overhead bag. I’ve either got it under my seat, already pulled it from the overhead, or I fuckin eyeball that thing like there’s about to be a missile intercept (because there is) and I grab and pull while I walk. Once I leave my seat there is no pause. In the same way, if I’m inside on the window, I’m watching for space and when middle seat moves I follow. None of this “oh shit I forgot the light turned green”.

Even now with kids we are only slightly slower than that. I have to let the gremlins (who you probably didn’t know were on the plane because they’ve been hyper entertained out of their fuckin minds) be line leader to walk off the plane and I need enough time to stand up and get the bags off the seat behind me onto my body to urban pack mule that shit out of here.

What I’m NOT doing is texting my boyfriend oblivious to the cues being presented to me, smashing through the line because I’m an inconsiderate fuckwit, or standing up when it’s my turn and gazing into the overheads like I’m lost in the Arby’s menu. Stage your shit and get the fuck off the plane without stopping, then walk like you got some place to be or move to the side. No big deal.

More importantly than any of that though, I’ve got this really weird superpower where I can listen to what the fuck the FAs say. If someone needs to get off the plane first, I can stay seated and wait for them to haul ass off the plane. Or at least I would, except it’s always like a herd of cattle with no awareness instantly reacting to the sound of the seatbelt light turning off no matter what.

I’m not being obtuse about it.

If you want to be supercilious about not consuming poison (specifically alcohol here) which can be responsibly consumed to some limited personal / social benefit, it is on the same footing as fast food.

“I don’t ingest poison“ from somebody with a BMI of 50 is hypocritical yum yucking and isn’t a good look.

Edit:

Wait. Let’s do this the honest way instead.

OPs comment rubs me the wrong way because after my second kid was born I went through some shit and had a period of alcohol dependence. That was and is not always easy to manage if you don’t have an interest in abstinence. It’s easy to judge people for ingesting poison, which is objectively true, but it is off-putting to get a lesson on the virtues of health from people who can’t put down the controller, or the sandwich, or the vape.

Yeah I read too much into it and knee jerked. OP is phrased in a way that is sneakily general and impersonal using passive voice which may or may not have been intentional, but it read as high and mighty to me and that is irksome when I can remember a period of every day battles with the stuff.

Alcohol yes. Less the older I get.

I’ve got an appreciation for bourbon and wine, so tasting those is pretty enjoyable. I also like a cold beer every now and then if I’m running the grill and it’s particularly hot, just not IPAs: I’m not that basic.

Tobacco no. I have tried it, but both my parents are smokers and I don’t like the smell.

I’m a millennial.

No fast food then either huh? Good on you.

I’m more concerned with the partials on the scale. 3 legs, maybe slime, and 0.25 house?

I was first in line.

Bro, that’s a regular old house.

Except that guardians also kinda sucks. They are, along with ant man, the low point of the avengers movies. If it wasn’t for ratchet and drax, they’ve just got nothing to offer IMO.

I ripped out my SOG Kiku XR and handed it to my buddy when he didn’t have a can opener for his corned beef hash at a football tailgate. The quality stuff should be BETTER at this sort of abuse then the cheap stuff. If it breaks, you gotta get something more up to the task.

The only thing in my EDC is that knife, and it’s all I usually need. That short and fat bastard can do work. That said, I’m not into pretending it’s a screwdriver.

She crossed her arms under her breasts, then tugged her braid.

The very situation we are in now was greatly enabled because lots of people did what you are doing. Dont lose sleep and sacrifice your health (edit not help), but if you were ever an undecided voter while Trump was running, or you don’t know what an oligarchy or nepotism is or why they’re relevant, or can’t recount what happened on Jan 6 2021 you NEED to pay more attention.