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  • Citizen’s Initiatives are great, but I’m not sure they are the right mechanism in this case.

    They are meant to make parliament address a concern, and not to inform legislators how you feel about a law proposal that is already on the table. All a Citizen’s Initiative does is force the European parliament to address a concern if a certain threshold of signatures is met. They will be doing that anyway when the law proposal is being voted on.

    And on top of that, the time frame for a Citizen’s Initiative is too long (over a year) to be a meaningful shield against Chat Control.

    Contacting your representatives to the European Parliament is probably the best way forward at this point.


  • I’m not sure how contacting my representatives in the European Parliament over something that I am concerned about, would be spam.

    I don’t care what party they are from, or what part of the country they are from. They are still my representatives.
    They sit there to represent the concerns of their constituents in parliament, and they cannot effectively do that if they do not know the concerns of their constituents.

    If you have good ideas for collective action I’d love to hear them, but until then shooting an email can never hurt.

    Edit: Just so there is no confusion, I don’t think signing a four year old change.org petition is any more effective than directly contacting your MEPs



  • The EU is a democracy.

    While it’s not perfect (no system is), each of the bodies that make up the EU legislature are democratic:

    • The European Parliament is directly elected in European elections every five years
    • The European Commission is made up of commissioners from each country, which are in turn appointed by their democratically elected governments
    • The European Council consists of the heads of state or governance, which are also democratically elected in the respective countries.
    • The Council of the European Union is made up of government ministers, which are appointed by the democratically elected governments.

    Not every body is directly voted on, but each body comes forth from a democratic election

    Edit: The message I responded to originally made the claim that the “EU is no democracy.”