You like to play with fire I see.

That’s it. Communities over guys. u/cheese_greater won.

have, they keep their firearm and ammo locked up, they never transport their firearm anywhere but to and from the range and they never load or discharge it anywhere but at the range.

They don’t trust you.

My first hitch came with and got stolen within a 3 days of having it.

I agree that’s BS but that’s also more in the USA where everyone has guns. In Canada cops can’t pull that as easily because statistically people aren’t carrying guns here.

There is no legal way to have a gun and ammunition that accessible in Canada.

Have you met an RPAL carrier? “Better tried by 12 than carried by 6” is kind of their mantra. I can think of 3 off the top of my head that I know 100% have loaded guns stashed in their residence (no kids).

Also keeping some other weapon nearby, like a bat by the door, constitutes some kind of premeditation to using it as a weapon.

My baseball bat is always in the hallway with my baseball and glove. How you articulate your actions matters. If you incriminate yourself by saying you carry a tool for self defense that’s on you. That’s why lawyers constantly tell you to never talk to the police. What you say can and will be used against you. They are not your friend just because you perceive yourself to be the victim.

Self defence laws in Canada are extremely restrictive given the increase in car jacking and home invasions to steal cars.

Self =! cars and property. Your right to defend yourself or others doesn’t give you the right to assault someone taking your ps5. Can you see how extending self defense rights to property would be a very slippery slope?

What’s with all the free trailer hitches?

The guy you’re replying to appears to have some PTSD from being burgled and assaulted. I don’t think they’re really arguing here so much as emoting.

We’re probably 5 years away from big box stores becoming distribution centers with vending machines out front.

In all honestly I don’t think amateur sports records matter and the people who say it does are only pretending to care about it to push their worldview.

I’ll buy “Sanctity of Sport” arguments when pro ports stops being a blatant gambling, alcohol, and exploitation ring. Nevermind the fact that PED use is prolific at the top levels of sport.

The fact that you think there is a single definition is the root of your fundamental misunderstanding.

(2) In determining whether the act committed is reasonable in the circumstances, the court shall consider the relevant circumstances of the person, the other parties and the act, including, but not limited to, the following factors:

(a) the nature of the force or threat;

(b) the extent to which the use of force was imminent and whether there were other means available to respond to the potential use of force;

© the person’s role in the incident;

(d) whether any party to the incident used or threatened to use a weapon;

(e) the size, age, gender and physical capabilities of the parties to the incident;

(f) the nature, duration and history of any relationship between the parties to the incident, including any prior use or threat of force and the nature of that force or threat;

(f.1) any history of interaction or communication between the parties to the incident;

(g) the nature and proportionality of the person’s response to the use or threat of force; and

(h) whether the act committed was in response to a use or threat of force that the person knew was lawful.

https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-34.html

Nah deodorant needs a key now tho

I mean sounds to me like you’re conflating your experience with cops to how judges interpret the law; which is simply not true.

It’s not a matter of clashing opinions.

Everyone here taking the rage-bait is clearly ignorant of the actual Canadian laws surrounding this.

1. Canadians have a legal right to defend themselves. Something not every country grants their citizens.

2. Several provincial trespass acts permit physical removal of trespassers.

So Canadians are well protected in confronting trespassers, so long as their actions are reasonable, IE conducive to removing the trespasser -or defending yourself.

Our laws work well. A fact that’s evidenced by our relatively peaceful society and the fact that stories like this (double charges) are a rarity.

The courts very much factor in if someone is acting in the moment or if they cognitively chose to do something. That’s like a huge thing. End of the day if someone can’t stop themselves from ground and pounding an unconscious person to death, than they are also a problem. The inability to control yourself or a violent situation are risk factors for anyone who doesn’t train martial arts.

VERY specific people would have been better off born 20 years ago.

The people pining to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Give homeowners the same benefit of the doubt

Plenty of people defend themselves without getting charged. Guarantee this guy could have stopped but didn’t. That’s 99% of what constitutes unreasonable force.

Everyone who thinks he was automatically charged for fighting back and winning is misinformed.

Canadians have a legal right to defend themselves. But logically that doesn’t grant you the right to counter-assault or murder others.

The fact that the RCMP are not releasing any details indicates they have a real case against this guy. For all we know he punched him out than laid the boots on his unconscious body.

Exactly. Canadian laws are design to incentivize de-escalating the level of violence. Unlike American laws which incentivize jumping straight to lethal force.

I have been assaulted and defended myself multiple times in Canada. It’s not how you’re describing it where you have some duty of care for the person you’re actively defending yourself from. Your right to defend yourself logically does not include the right to counter-assault or murder others. Guarantee this guy could have stopped but didn’t. That’s 99% of the time what constitutes unreasonable force.

Plenty of people hospitalize their assailants and don’t get charged. This story is rage-bait.

If I shoot him again to finish him in that state, that’s murder.

That’s how our laws work to, just you’d need a license to have that gun. You can beat someone’s ass in self defense but if you lay the boots in after they’re out cold that’s its own crime.

Guarantee that’s the situation here. The fact that the RCMP are withholding details indicates they have a serious case against the guy.