• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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      6 days ago

      “chicken’s egg” is the owner of the egg the chicken inside it, or the one who laid it?
      Likewise it’s not clear that “chicken egg” refers to the creator of the egg or the inhabitant of it.

      Pretending for the sake of semantic argument that any of these scenarios were possible:
      If an alligator laid an egg and a chicken came out, was that a chicken egg?
      If a chicken laid an egg and an alligator came out, was that a chicken egg?

      But now consider, you know what I mean by the following phrase:
      “An alligator laid a chicken egg, and an alligator hatched out of it”

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          4 days ago

          “you mean alligator egg”

          No, I didn’t. And yet you still likely understand what I mean, or get close enough to what I mean that it doesn’t matter, unless you’re being intentionally obstinate.

          And what do you think of the idea that the egg is simply a phase in the life of an animal, that the chicken is the egg it hatched from, not just the former inhabitant? In this case how can the egg be owned by the animal that laid it if it is itself an animal?
          Like the caterpillar is the chrysalis is the butterfly, the chicken is the egg.

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            3 days ago

            If it hatches into an alligator then it’s an alligator egg, so yeah you did mean alligator egg. I actually don’t know what you mean, because what you described doesn’t make sense.

            And I do think think that, it belongs to that creature just like you belong to your mom and vice versa. If somone pointed at your mom and said “that’s PeriodicallyPedantic’s mom” and you said “Aha! But how can she be mine when she’s a different person!”, they’d probably just say “the fuck you on about”.

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              2 days ago

              I honestly do not believe that when I said that, you not only didn’t but we’re unable to imagine an egg that by all properties confirmed to the expectations of a chicken egg until an alligator miraculously hatched out of it.

              I do not believe you’re debating in good faith

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                13 hours ago

                I genuinely cannot imagine that. It doesn’t make any sense. The only property that is a necessary condition for an egg to be a chicken egg is that it has the potential for a chicken to hatch from it. So what you are describing has an inconsistency and is therefore nonsense. Do you mean an alligator egg that looks like a chicken egg? Because if so, then it’s still an alligator egg.

                Literally the only thing that matters is that an alligator hatches from it, so it’s an alligator egg.