Edit to add my opinion so I’m not just replying “I agree” to 90% of comments. I think it should be legal, properly regulated, taxed and viewed as a profession. I haven’t personally engaged in it but I have no moral objection to it. I do hate the common sentiment that it was the individual’s “only option” though.
Never had anything to do with it personally, but just like with drugs it should be legal and regulated because it’s impossible to prohibit it.
It’s legal and regulated. Seems to work fine. I don’t know anyone who wants to outlaw it.
Regulated with provisions for safety. I’m all for the idea it should be in a specific license location, like love hotels or massage parlors or something like that. No going to someones house or a different hotel.
And unionized, and the employer pays for (without touching employee pay):
- PPE (including gloves, dental dams, and male and female condoms, which are mandatory for any and all physical contact that includes genitals, mucous membranes, feet, or non-intact skin).
- regular STD testing
- vaccinations
- optional pharmacologic prophylaxis
- building security
- both bedside and wearable panic alarms
- identity monitoring and protection / assistance removing their personal information from publicly accessible records.
Every room should be required to have a poster listing employee rights.
Aside from pricing differently for specific services (handjob vs blowjob etc) tipping is illegal.
No employee (particularly owners or supervisors) are allowed to receive service at their own location or any owned by a same parent company.
The owner and any shift supervisors are required to take a class on these regulations and sit for and pass a licensure exam.
Independent workers can receive a special, less restrictive license (that includes basic sex ed but mostly focuses on informing them of their rights and that independent means independent not “your boss just doesn’t want to get a license” and keeping people with intellectual disabilities or low educational level from being misinformed of their rights as a sex worker).
They worker will never face charges for not having a license but their boss or any John (Jane?) / client who can’t prove the sex worker or company was licensed (or that they were significantly or intentionally misled) can.
Much of what you said I agree with, but let me say that an independent license with less restrictions will be way more favorable and harder to secure than a location license. An independent license should not remove regulations, but remove security. Being licensed through a house should guarantee the availability of condoms and such, security personnel, testing, and so on. An independent license should require std testing regularly, but also means a John/Jane has to sign a waiver that they understand this is an independent.
I also would like to state that a house should never be run like strip clubs are where the strippers are independent contractors who have to pay the club. Workers should be employees just like ia regular job. Just a license.
Another point should be that a worker needs to be responsible for their own license renewal. The license for renewal (on time) should be free if you are in a house, and tied to the company that owns the house. If a worker gets a better offer at another company, a new license is required, but not if it’s a transfer of locations within a company.
And in the point of the company, there should be limitations on how many houses they can own, and how many workers in each house. Maybe that can be at a local level, like I can’t have a house called Billy’s House of Poon right across the street from another place I own called Madam Sapphire Day Spa. Zoning laws. I live in an area that saw an explosion of dispensaries after weed went legal, and now most of them are all owned by corporations that have no problem opening new shops in the same market. Avoid that.
I could go on, build out a framework for all the legal stuff, but I’ll keep it simple.
And honestly a lot of these would probably need to be tested top see what works best, but the core point is that in an ideal world there would be an ongoing effort to make sure the worker is given as much power over the situation as possible.
The only thing more certain to exist till the end of time than prostitution is people complaining about it. I like it because it makes something explicit that is implicit in so many apparently non transactional relationships. There are so many people who say prostitution should be banned, who are also in relationships/marriages where they expect sex for shelter, food, safety or whatever. Prostitution makes the transaction clear. People point to the exploitative nature of it, but then reveal their real agenda by also rejecting the idea of making it safer for the people selling access to their bodies. The whole thing is a massively hypocritical pile of double standards. Mix into that cultures with backwards patriarchal religious doctrines and that’s where you get the really angry people who talk about dishonor and stoning and all that jazz. Prostitution has been around since there were people and will always be around. When the puritans are in charge it just hides for a bit. This has been my TED talk, thanks lol
I think it should be legalized. The only thing wrong with sex outside of procreation is absolutely nothing. I have a hunch it would help with a lot of social ills out there. Why, in most depictions of the old west, you could go to town and get a prostitute. Eventually, powerful people with sexual hang-ups and twisted morals restricted the activity and pushed it underground where it’s dirty and dangerous.
As long as all parties involved are consenting adults it’s none of my business what they are up to. Except that prostitution should be legalized in a way in which they get equal rights and protections to other professions. The only reason it’s illegal in many countries in the first place is likely based on religious Puritanism, which I do not think laws should ever be based on.
Even Calvinists in the Netherlands legalised prostitution.
As a dude, i sucked a dick for big money to some rich old guy. With inflation, over 900 dollars for like nothing. So im biased
I think it needs to be legalized world wide to give it an opportunity to be regulated. If its already happening might as well capitalism the industry. Its going to happen either way, or the world will continue to have deep state sex clubs.
how do i do this that sounds awesome
Do heavy drugs and get in with the ‘wrong’ crowd with people you can mostly trust. Theres better ways im sure, but that was my method.
As long as the industry has regulations that help keep the prostitutes safe ( generic things like STD testing and time off to clear that all up, ways to deal with rowdy, rough customers, etcetera ) In have zero problem as long as the workers are consenting and at least in their mid to late 20s to keep the creepiest of people out.
I have friends and love ones who have done survival sex work, there is nothing wrong doing sex work and I’m happy to fight people who say othrrwise
Considering “survival sex work” as something positive is quite strange.
I guess a worker under capitalism, all work is “survival work”.
Would nobody have to work under other forms of governmental organization?
Humans have a natural drive to work for the betterment of their community. Capitalism suppresses that drive by teaching them to sell their bodies and time. Give them a choice, and enough will choose to work that society can survive. Those who don’t want to work are often sick in some way and need society’s support. There’s no such thing as laziness.
It should be legal, safe, and taxed
Same as belief. Churches have to pay the same as everyone. They are a corporation.
Same as belief.
how do you know someone is an edgelord atheist?
Don’t worry, they’ll tell you. They’ll crowbar it in wherever
how do you know someone is an edgelord atheist?
why, the same with defensive religious people. They’ll see a criticism on churches and they will take it as a personal attack
Please let me know how relevant belief is to regulating and taxing prostitution. Like, he had that shit waiting to go and found any place to cram it.
he said that churches are taxed and regulated and whatnot, as prostitution should be too.
Maybe saying “same as belief” wasn’t good, but the rest of the comment makes it clear they’re talking about churches. Not to mention the demonisation of prostitution that comes from those churches, so i find it relevant.
Or maybe there’s other parallels you can draw between belief and prostitution, like being roped into one against your will, or maybe it being “the only option”, or being the only thing some desperate people look to for help, etc.
Well, belief used in the sense of how most “churches” use belief, as a way to indoctrinate, kind of like the modern church.
You can draw many dots and see it can be relevant to the discussion as a comparison, but it’s easier to offload the mental work to others, no?
