It’s worth it; it feels like driving an EV with how quickly it picks up speed
Doubt.
Just checked it and if I got the right model, 0-100 is between 7.2 and 8 seconds, depending on the model year. Mid range EV SUVs such as the Enyaq are between 5.5 and 8.7 seconds, so way below the outback if you don’t pick the low end version. Performance-centric EVs are below 4 seconds. And they all have a more or less constant torque which just isn’t possible for ICEs.
If you like your car that’s fine. But combustion engines aren’t even close to how EVs drive.
So slower by 0.7 sec? Unless only you are allowed to cherry pick from the data.
Pick a performance version
Okay then pick a performance ICE SUV to compare to and not a Subaru Outback.
Constant torque
This isnt the 1950s. Most vehicles have very flat torque curves when they’re in the power and high gear counts in their auto transmissions to provide this, as well.
If you like EVs that’s fine but the driving dynamics of EVs and ICEs is basically the same when actually in use.
So slower by 0.7 sec? Unless only you are allowed to cherry pick from the data.
The Subaru is specifically the rare higher performance engine, so comparing them to the higher performance versions of comparable EVs would be the only fair thing to do.
the driving dynamics of EVs and ICEs is basically the same when actually in use.
Absolutely not, but hey, whatever you want to believe that makes you happy.
Larger engine, yes. High performance? Absolutely not. It’s only 71hp per liter(257hp from a 6cyl 3.6L). It was tuned to run off regular gas. Honda had a car that made 120hp per liter(NA model, 240hp from a 4cyl 2L) and they stopped making it over 15 years ago. The Honda was naturally aspirated same as the Subaru. Hell, the current gen Miata makes 90hp per liter(and ~1300 pounds lighter). The subaru is…slow. Even staying in the world of ICE.
so comparing them to the higher performance versions of comparable EVs would be the only fair thing to do.
Let’s hop back to that Enyaq…5.5s? Yeah for the 340hp top of the line model that costs nearly twice what a 3.6L Outback does. So much for ‘comparable’. The Enyaq 80x is the most comparable at 261hp to the subie’s 257hp and it’s up at 6.9s. Both are AWD. Still faster than an Outback but by like a second? Not a huge deal in your everyday commuting.
The 2019 Outback(last year with 3.6) started at $35/39K with a 3.6L(limited / touring trims). Adjusting for inflation to 2021 and that pulls it up to $37/41K. The Enyaq 80X started at £46,610 in 2021. Just converting to USD using Google that’s $64.5K. It’s a pretty hefty amount more.
Doubt.
Just checked it and if I got the right model, 0-100 is between 7.2 and 8 seconds, depending on the model year. Mid range EV SUVs such as the Enyaq are between 5.5 and 8.7 seconds, so way below the outback if you don’t pick the low end version. Performance-centric EVs are below 4 seconds. And they all have a more or less constant torque which just isn’t possible for ICEs.
If you like your car that’s fine. But combustion engines aren’t even close to how EVs drive.
That’s firmly in Ford Escape territory🤣
The h6 is only fast if you just got out of the h4
“Fast” is always relative.
So slower by 0.7 sec? Unless only you are allowed to cherry pick from the data.
Okay then pick a performance ICE SUV to compare to and not a Subaru Outback.
This isnt the 1950s. Most vehicles have very flat torque curves when they’re in the power and high gear counts in their auto transmissions to provide this, as well.
If you like EVs that’s fine but the driving dynamics of EVs and ICEs is basically the same when actually in use.
The Subaru is specifically the rare higher performance engine, so comparing them to the higher performance versions of comparable EVs would be the only fair thing to do.
Absolutely not, but hey, whatever you want to believe that makes you happy.
Larger engine, yes. High performance? Absolutely not. It’s only 71hp per liter(257hp from a 6cyl 3.6L). It was tuned to run off regular gas. Honda had a car that made 120hp per liter(NA model, 240hp from a 4cyl 2L) and they stopped making it over 15 years ago. The Honda was naturally aspirated same as the Subaru. Hell, the current gen Miata makes 90hp per liter(and ~1300 pounds lighter). The subaru is…slow. Even staying in the world of ICE.
Let’s hop back to that Enyaq…5.5s? Yeah for the 340hp top of the line model that costs nearly twice what a 3.6L Outback does. So much for ‘comparable’. The Enyaq 80x is the most comparable at 261hp to the subie’s 257hp and it’s up at 6.9s. Both are AWD. Still faster than an Outback but by like a second? Not a huge deal in your everyday commuting.
The 2019 Outback(last year with 3.6) started at $35/39K with a 3.6L(limited / touring trims). Adjusting for inflation to 2021 and that pulls it up to $37/41K. The Enyaq 80X started at £46,610 in 2021. Just converting to USD using Google that’s $64.5K. It’s a pretty hefty amount more.