• Eldritch@piefed.world
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    23 days ago

    And X11 will never be ready for most modern users. They have different goals. But that’s the thing with open source. As long as someone somewhere needs it. Even if 90% of us don’t need X11 for legacy software. It will still be here.

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      2 days ago

      I spent 4 years with an external monitor on my desk that I couldn’t use because it was absolutely painful to find a consistent way to make the 2 different DPIs of the screens work in a way that made sense. Only now with proper Wayland can I enjoy and use it. Yeah there’s hacks, but I’d rather let it be dead in a corner than try to work around it. It was a bunch of black screen, inconsitencies between the order I’d plug the external screen, when i did it (before or after logging in), etc… I can’t even imagine all the other pain points about hdr, variable or high refresh rates, etc.

      Wayland is great.

      Had to wait a bunch of time and tried many times before and it wasn’t ready for my needs, but now it is and I’m happy. God knows how many rants I’ve done on fedi about it not working for a lot of time on plasma and weird bugs everwhere.

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      23 days ago

      And X11 will never be ready for most modern users.

      Most modern users don’t care either way so long as it works.
      X11 works for most users.

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        22 days ago

        You completely missed the point being made.

        Wayland is what new users start on. And Wayland works for most users. In fact, for these users, it works better than Xorg.

        So nobody is going to switch to Xorg. The only people using it will be the few that have not switched to Wayland. And, as the applications go Wayland only, that will become a very short list.

        It is mot Wayland that has to prove itself. X11 is not winning the battle for new users, or even old ones.