• gruvn@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    So you know what? You don’t have to boycott stuff.
    The rest of us can do as we choose, and us Canadians are going to choose to not spend money on US stuff.

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      6 days ago

      That is missing my point, aggressively. You can make more strawman arguments if you wish, but if you’re still hemming and hawing about your consumer spending as activism, not only that but for the sake of Canadian nationalism, you’re a long way from having political priorities. You are satisfied with nothing. Your leadership will take note of your complacency.

      Boycotting is more than negative, and less than positive. Boycotting is nothing. Not boycotting is aiding and abetting. Expecting results from nothing is just silly.

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          5 days ago

          No posts in a week, take a lap. Better burner next time. No attention points. Blocked.

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            5 days ago

            Oh no don’t block me!

            What difference does post frequency make. I assume you post garbage day after day given the quality of your recent moronic posts

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          4 days ago

          That is not what pithy means. These are diatribes, tuned to make things as specific as possible for incredible foolish and disingenuous people. Pithy is quick and to the point. That would never work on you.

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        5 days ago

        You are satisfied with nothing.

        I’m not going without. I can still get everything I need and want. It just doesn’t come from the US.

        I watch videos about US tourism being down because the majority of their business comes from Canada. Stores are shutting, businesses going bankrupt, places like Vegas are losing millions a day because we Canadians are staying home. I watch the videos and giggle. We’re making a dent and Americans are feeling it.

        Meanwhile, we vacation in civilized countries in Europe and enjoy a spot of tea while calling out Americas wearing Canadian flags.

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          5 days ago

          If opposing fascism is about your personal comfort, then I have some choice analogies for your position in history

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            5 days ago

            I’m all about opposing fascism but the US is not a friend of Canada. They made these problems, they have to deal with it.

            I’m 100% for shutting the borders and ending all trade with the US knowing damn well it would hurt Canada.

            And when it comes to it, I’ll happily stand the the southern border and lob bullets in their direction when required.

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              Boycotting a couple American goods is in no way going to manifest and totally blocking off the border. I mean, I feel like my criticism is misplaced here, because you’re completely unrealistic. Look, we can go around in circles, but I’m going to dinner, and the fact is, all I’m saying is that striking is what’s necessary to push for any of these goals. None of these goals even matter if there’s no way to achieve them. Apologies for dictation errors. Thank you guys for helping me pass the time at work. I hope you actually understood what I’m saying instead of just getting mad, but I doubt it.

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                5 days ago

                Look, we can go around in circles,

                You replied to me once, I replied to you once. Wow.

                I have no idea what you’re talking about or where you’re coming from.

                My point is the US is no longer a friend to Canada and they are an active threat to Canada. I choose to not do business (or as little business) as I can with them. I refuse to cross the border and give them my money. I will support as many and all actions against the USA and will pressure my political representatives to do the same. I think Canada should secure our southern border and work as hard as we can to no longer trade with the USA until the USA makes a major turn away from being a neo-fascist oligarchy.

                I don’t see how that’s being unrealistic. The US is not our friend. We as a country should work together to turn our backs on it. We are a major trade partner with the USA. We can focus those attentions to other parts of the world and do some damage to them.

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                  5 days ago

                  Maybe I’m just mixing up the threads, but didn’t I already say this stuff? Aren’t we discussing how to effectively stick it to the US? I’m just saying boycotts are weak and strikes are very very strong. Honestly my mentions have been so whiny and presumptuous over these issues, and yet nobody can claim their actions are even effective. So why do we disagree? Do we disagree on whether to pat ourselves on the back for symbolic actions? Because it doesn’t seriously follow that your actions would progress into breaking off from the US, just a few kerfuffles until the next presidency

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        5 days ago

        Nobody is missing the point. We’re all discussing boycotting, and for some reason, it triggers you. Have fun defending your ridiculous assertion that boycotts are useless against strangers on the internet.

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          5 days ago

          What has the boycott accomplished? This question seems to make you a might testy, doesn’t it?

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            5 days ago

            Well. Vegas is empty. Florida is empty. Kentucky lost a massive part of its Bourbon market. All American produce in Canadian grocery stores is being replaced with produce from other countries.

            It is absolutely having an impact. To say otherwise is to ignore reality.

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              4 days ago

              Vegas is empty because it’s unaffordable. Even Americans avoid it. Canadians cannot afford US healthcare in Florida.

              Kentucky lost 8% of its bourbon sales, hardly massive, and people need to stop drinking carcinogenic liquids anyway.

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              4 days ago

              That’s not delinking from the USA. That is changing consumption habits. I’m not going to reiterate yet again the financial relationship between Canada and the US. You have to actually acquire and wield political power. You cannot just ask your government to delink.

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                  4 days ago

                  This article is paywalled, so I assume you have not read it and are going off the headlines, like you have with everything else you said to me. It’s a shame you’re giving up, but then again you never had political goals to begin with.

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                    4 days ago

                    It’s not paywalled for me - I’ve read it. If you read my comments only, I have merely agreed that for Canadians, boycotting the US is now commonplace, and we think it’s a good idea. You seem to want to argue about something else.